The “It’s Over”, the Offense, and the Turnovers

[Tank]

I think it would be more likely if he wasn't attached to that influencer gf of his. That's a shitshow I don't think Biscuit would enter into.

I doubt Steve would even consider hiring a 73 year old Bill anyway. He's a businessman that recognizes the value in stability and continuity, wouldn't be much of that with him. lol

 

[JoeyFlex5]

People are going to harp on Lamar a lot, and he didn't play well, but he wasn't alone in sinking the offense.

RR and DF get manhandled on the sack that caused the fumble.

Likely fumbles the ball out of the back of the end zone, ending a possession and netting no points.

Likely gets absolutely rolled on Lamar's interception and allows the tip to happen as Lamar tried to get it out.

Walker pulls up because he fails to track a deep ball that he could walk in with.

Walker fails to make a tough catch deep for six.

Flowers pushes off and the Ravens eventually walk away with zero points rather than a touchdown.

Flowers fumbles the ball.

I'm not excusing that Lamar made some bad throws because he did. He generally looked off and I'd have to think maybe lower body injuries have messed up his mechanics some? I don't know.

But, my point is people will rail Lamar hard, but Lamar still made several plays that should have resulted in six and put the Ravens in a position to win and the offense crumbled around him.

Yes, Lamar was a problem, but he was not the only one.

Also, I've had this thought for a long while now, but are Likely and Bateman really all that or are they beneficiaries of playing Lamar's backyard football? They clearly work really well in tandem with Lamar when he scrambles around and can buy time, but they have been invisible with the offense operating more in structure.

I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?

 

[redrum52]

People aren't going to want to hear it, but the right side of the line had a good game. Other than the first Lamar fumble where Rosengarten and Faalele clearly got their wires crossed, it was a good effort overall.

Curious to see how Emery Jones progresses. It wasn't a lot of snaps, but it was definitely a mixed bag. Some very promising things and some moments where he looked like it was his first game. I'd keep rotating him in because the upside is clearly higher than the alternative, but don't expect it to be pretty all the time.

The line as a whole wasn't "bad" but it was also the Bengals.

 

[OURavensFan]

People are going to harp on Lamar a lot, and he didn't play well, but he wasn't alone in sinking the offense.

RR and DF get manhandled on the sack that caused the fumble.

Likely fumbles the ball out of the back of the end zone, ending a possession and netting no points.

Likely gets absolutely rolled on Lamar's interception and allows the tip to happen as Lamar tried to get it out.

Walker pulls up because he fails to track a deep ball that he could walk in with.

Walker fails to make a tough catch deep for six.

Flowers pushes off and the Ravens eventually walk away with zero points rather than a touchdown.

Flowers fumbles the ball.

I'm not excusing that Lamar made some bad throws because he did. He generally looked off and I'd have to think maybe lower body injuries have messed up his mechanics some? I don't know.

But, my point is people will rail Lamar hard, but Lamar still made several plays that should have resulted in six and put the Ravens in a position to win and the offense crumbled around him.

Yes, Lamar was a problem, but he was not the only one.

Also, I've had this thought for a long while now, but are Likely and Bateman really all that or are they beneficiaries of playing Lamar's backyard football? They clearly work really well in tandem with Lamar when he scrambles around and can buy time, but they have been invisible with the offense operating more in structure.

Yea it’s insane how many points we left out there, this felt like a game we give away to the Steelers. But maybe next week they’ll play better because of this

 

[Grim]

I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?

It’s not just the Ravens, though. If you look around the league all the good teams these past years are off. Lions, Eagles, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs

 

[gtalk12]

Walker let me down with those two drops.

I have high hopes for him. He better not just be a Boykin

 

[OURavensFan]

It’s not just the Ravens, though. If you look around the league all the good teams these past years are off. Lions, Eagles, Ravens, Bills, Chiefs

At least the Cheifs and eagles can jerk off to their Super Bowl rings

 

[Simba]

People are going to harp on Lamar a lot, and he didn't play well, but he wasn't alone in sinking the offense.

RR and DF get manhandled on the sack that caused the fumble.

Likely fumbles the ball out of the back of the end zone, ending a possession and netting no points.

Likely gets absolutely rolled on Lamar's interception and allows the tip to happen as Lamar tried to get it out.

Walker pulls up because he fails to track a deep ball that he could walk in with.

Walker fails to make a tough catch deep for six.

Flowers pushes off and the Ravens eventually walk away with zero points rather than a touchdown.

Flowers fumbles the ball.

I'm not excusing that Lamar made some bad throws because he did. He generally looked off and I'd have to think maybe lower body injuries have messed up his mechanics some? I don't know.

But, my point is people will rail Lamar hard, but Lamar still made several plays that should have resulted in six and put the Ravens in a position to win and the offense crumbled around him.

Yes, Lamar was a problem, but he was not the only one.

Also, I've had this thought for a long while now, but are Likely and Bateman really all that or are they beneficiaries of playing Lamar's backyard football? They clearly work really well in tandem with Lamar when he scrambles around and can buy time, but they have been invisible with the offense operating more in structure.

I don't disagree. There were definitely plays to be made that were indeed not made. But Lamar missed some absolute layups that put us in some really tough positions consistently throughout the game. It's not all of him, but he was definitely off. It happens. I'm not worried about the long-term with him though.

 

[OURavensFan]

I don't disagree. There were definitely plays to be made that were indeed not made. But Lamar missed some absolute layups that put us in some really tough positions consistently throughout the game. It's not all of him, but he was definitely off. It happens. I'm not worried about the long-term with him though.

Yea I mean, we started 1-5, we are 6-6. Mediocre af. But we beat the Bears! With Huntley, they look solid. If Lamar can find it again and the defense continues to roll we could go on a run. Delusions of grandeur perhaps but the 2023 Cheifs looked like pure garbage and even lost to the awful Raiders on Christmas then beat the best team in the league with the best DvOA since the 92 skins. Who was that loser team that would choke that away?

 

[Simba]

Yea I mean, we started 1-5, we are 6-6. Mediocre af. But we beat the Bears! With Huntley, they look solid. If Lamar can find it again and the defense continues to roll we could go on a run. Delusions of grandeur perhaps but the 2023 Cheifs looked like pure garbage and even lost to the awful Raiders on Christmas then beat the best team in the league with the best DvOA since the 92 skins. Who was that loser team that would choke that away?

I'd feel a lot worse about us as a team if it was 2023 or 2024, where there were some clear cream of the crop teams. This year? Make it to the playoffs and see what happens. Every team outside of maybe the Rams right now has been up and down all season. Just gotta get hot at the right time. Do I expect it goes well for us? No, not necessarily. But can't get laid if you don't make it to the bar at all.

 

[OURavensFan]

I'd feel a lot worse about us as a team if it was 2023 or 2024, where there were some clear cream of the crop teams. This year? Make it to the playoffs and see what happens. Every team outside of maybe the Rams right now has been up and down all season. Just gotta get hot at the right time. Do I expect it goes well for us? No, not necessarily. But can't get laid if you don't make it to the bar at all.

Yea I agree, win next week and punk the bengals back and it’s looking good

 

[Tank]

Walker let me down with those two drops.

I have high hopes for him. He better not just be a Boykin

I think with more reps Tez is going to be a good one.

 

[gtalk12]

I think with more reps Tez is going to be a good one.

I really hope that is the case.

Those were some great opportunities to really make a name for himself and get more touches

 

[ravenslord]

I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?

It’s pretty much the same team as last year , right . And Stout has punted much better. Missing Mekari seems to be the biggest hole but overall same team .

 

[29BmoreBird22]

I don't disagree. There were definitely plays to be made that were indeed not made. But Lamar missed some absolute layups that put us in some really tough positions consistently throughout the game. It's not all of him, but he was definitely off. It happens. I'm not worried about the long-term with him though.

My point wasn't to say that Lamar wasn't off; I don't disagree with that at all.

My point was to say that a lot of other players should be thankful Lamar is taking the heat he is because several of them were pretty tragic.

 

[OURavensFan]

I think with more reps Tez is going to be a good one.

Idk. I’m not too hopeful. He was awful this game and has only ever made plays in blowouts. Sure opportunities and all, I just think we’re whipped as a fanbase on WRs, this guy is WR 6 on the bengals

 

[Deebo813]

I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?

Im sure bateman and likely would look much better on a different team for sure! We can say what we want lamar is part of the reason why those guys numbers arent what they should be! I think bateman and likely are easily 700+ yard type of guys

 

[UPennChem]

The whole team is playing bad and the highest paid are not playing at the level of their contracts.

 

[rossihunter2]

Not much good out of this one, other than the fact that the pain is over.

The offense looks lost right now. Lamar probably just turned in his worst game in a long time. Everything is broken. Need to go to the lab and figure out what to do on offense if there’s any hope of salvaging this season.

obviously clearly related to his injuries given how much better he was playing before the injury
but hard to argue this isn't lamar's worst season as a pro as a full-time starter
even in the chaos of the 2021 season with that horrible OT situation and the wild offensive skill situation in 2022, he looked better than this

 

[rossihunter2]

I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?

bate was open all game on thursday