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The “It’s Over”, the Offense, and the Turnovers

JoeyFlex5 said:
I don’t buy Bateman hype any more. I know what he’s capable of, he’s an excellent route runner, but he always had a tendency to shrink when his number is called, and I think last year was an aberration for him.

Likely might mostly be a scramble drill guy, I may have been wrong about him. His YAC is still a weapon though.

Why is the entire team floundering like this?
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I generally think of Bateman as someone who gets way more hype and love than he should.

I think he is the major beneficiary of Lamar's ability to extend plays and scramble.

I know a lot of people will go on and on about his separation stats, but every single Ravens receiver ranks well in separation stats year over year because Lamar can buy time and they play well in the scramble drill situations.

I think he's just another guy that, unfortunately, hasn't lived up to his draft slot.
 
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gtalk12 said:
Sometimes thing aren't going to be perfect or pretty.

The ball was underthrown a bit so he slowed down and the ball landed in his hands. You got to catch ugly ones too. (this is DPI considering what else they called)
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Well, it looks like the defender was pulling his arms down before the ball even got there. Besides the bad throw, don't you think that also had some impact on his ability to secure the catch?
 
Tank said:
Well, it looks like the defender was pulling his arms down before the ball even got there. Besides the bad throw, don't you think that also had some impact on his ability to secure the catch?
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They would have just called OPI on us if he caught it
 
Tank said:
Well, it looks like the defender was pulling his arms down before the ball even got there. Besides the bad throw, don't you think that also had some impact on his ability to secure the catch?
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Of course it impacts your ability to catch the ball.

They don't bring you in to catch the easy ones and clean ones
 
I safely assumed Chase pushed off and on that long play against Humphrey he did exactly what he always did and what they called Flowers for. Refs need burrow to win.
 
Baltimorican said:
Steelers are looking at a complete rebuild. No qb + old defense and the OLine rebuild went even worse than ours.
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ravens have a pretty clear pathway to being very competitive in 2026 even if this year goes nowhere

you need to retool the IOL - that might be 1 OG, 2 OG or maybe even 2 OGs and a C depending on what they do with Linderbaum

you need to improve the DL depth and depending on Jones and Madubuike, you might be looking at starters too - completely depends on Madubuike's long-term health what you do here, but if you can pay Travis Jones and you're confident that Madubuike's returning, then you're just looking at depth and maybe adding some young talent to grow behind them and rotate

EDGE - you're looking for a 2nd/3rd pass rusher - mike green looks like the real deal, dre'mont jones looks like a really useful player if you can retain him, Robinson's a good snap eater and run stuffer

TE might need a complete overhaul

WR needs more talent added - some explosion would help
CB needs more talent added, especially if Marlo's moving on

but with lots of draft picks and a decent chunk of cap space, it feels doable that this team can really improve in 2026
 
rossihunter2 said:
ravens have a pretty clear pathway to being very competitive in 2026 even if this year goes nowhere

you need to retool the IOL - that might be 1 OG, 2 OG or maybe even 2 OGs and a C depending on what they do with Linderbaum

you need to improve the DL depth and depending on Jones and Madubuike, you might be looking at starters too - completely depends on Madubuike's long-term health what you do here, but if you can pay Travis Jones and you're confident that Madubuike's returning, then you're just looking at depth and maybe adding some young talent to grow behind them and rotate

EDGE - you're looking for a 2nd/3rd pass rusher - mike green looks like the real deal, dre'mont jones looks like a really useful player if you can retain him, Robinson's a good snap eater and run stuffer

TE might need a complete overhaul

WR needs more talent added - some explosion would help
CB needs more talent added, especially if Marlo's moving on

but with lots of draft picks and a decent chunk of cap space, it feels doable that this team can really improve in 2026
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Green looks like the real deal? Maybe I missed these sacks
 
OURavensFan said:
Green looks like the real deal? Maybe I missed these sacks
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He's got a bag of different pass rush moves and is taking on an inordinate amount of double teams for a rookie. There's a clear trend upwards in recent weeks as well. The results may not yet be there but the signs are.
 
Simba said:
He's got a bag of different pass rush moves and is taking on an inordinate amount of double teams for a rookie. There's a clear trend upwards in recent weeks as well. The results may not yet be there but the signs are.
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That’s sad no one else is taking advantage to get pressures then
 
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