Cville-Raven
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yup, guy has off the field issues out the wazzoo
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The WR Thread
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Oldfaithful
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We need to stop drafting LOSERS. We need to start drafting people with these minor problems. Then maybe move them to strong safety when they fail as a WR
Cville-Raven
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If he isn't an alpha male I don't want him.
Also I think you meant to say StROnG SaFEty
Honestly thank you. Feels good to not be alone on this.
Ravensnation5220
Ravens Ring of Honor
Well, we will se how he times. Im interested mostly in his 40 time because that will refelct on his acceleration. Apparently he has a 37 inch vert which usually tramslates to explosiveness
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
40 times are a bad indicator of acceleration, watching the 40 can show it but the time itself doesn't. Jeremy Langford had the best 40 time in his whole class but he didn't have very good acceleration at all.
That fucking narrative.
And then completely back off from any responsability when said player fucks up off the field.
Well John Ross was pretty indicative. He had a bluring 40 and that kept on the field where he was invisible.
Sooky
MVP
Yeah I stopped looking at 40 times and have to use the eye test on burst on cuts on routes. I feel like route running gains more separation than straight line speed.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Lol saying it's a bad indicator doesn't mean that anyone with a fast 40 time is slow to accelerate.
use it in combination with the broad jump and the 3 cone drill and if they appear near the top of all 3 then you've likely got an explosive burst
To be fair I do care some bit about 40 when it comes to WR. I just take it with a pinch of salt because play speed and track speed are obviously very different.
I’m a much bigger proponent of route running than 40 time. For one thing, they won’t have as big an adjustment to the NFL. Players also lose speed when they get older. If these speedsters haven’t learned how to run a route they won’t be useful anymore, whereas a route runner will be much more useful.
Ravensnation5220
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I still think James Washington is vastly underrated here. Watching his tape prior to his senior year you can tell he has some serious speed. He has an extra gear where he pulls away from defenders
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
I'm with you. He is very good and of all the receivers probably best fit for us (apart from Ridley, who is a good fit on any team).
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
What makes Ridley any better a universal fit than Anthony miller?
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
Don't get me wrong, I like Miller heaps but I think he's a slot receiver in pros.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
Why though? I just don't see that. Is it because he's, what... 3 inches shorter?
allblackraven
Hall of Famer
He isn't that much shorter but the combination of his frame/size and the fact that he's not the fastest guy makes me have a pause. Now, he compensates for both with some good route running and jump ability but I'm just not sure whether what was enough in AAC is going to be enough in pros.
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
His frame isn't tiny, he's a pretty stout 5'11" wr, and he plays incredibly explosive, not sure where the size and speed talk is coming from. And I'd say his route running and above all things his ability to attack the everloving fuck out of the ball when he's catching it, pretty much means he's gonna be able to do the same at any level.
Size and top speed means nothing when you get quick and consistent separation through elite routes and quickness.