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Deebo813 said:
idk how we pick anyone other than minter and kubiak.. i could see flores too though but anyone else would shock me. I think if we can get klint, we need to go after jim scwartz or morris as dc if possible. If we get minter or flores, lets hope we can get mcdaniel.. shit it me be better defensive coordinators available for us if we go klint
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i really think mcdaniel's the guy we should want in the building
and idk that HC is out of the question for me...
 
Argentina Raven said:
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Some of the defensive names on the list aren't a good fit for our current roster.
If we switched to a 4-3 formation like Schwarz uses, we wouldn't have enough draft picks to make the necessary moves. The same goes for Flores.
It's the same with some offensive coaches.
No matter what names they mention, a West Coast system and a 3-4 formation is what suits us best right now
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3-4/4-3 doesnt really mean anything anymore tbh because basically only one team in the NFL uses base as their base defence - the rest of the NFL is in nickel as base most of the time which renders the distinction between 3-4/4-3 somewhat meaningless
 
Deebo813 said:
idk how we pick anyone other than minter and kubiak.. i could see flores too though but anyone else would shock me. I think if we can get klint, we need to go after jim scwartz or morris as dc if possible. If we get minter or flores, lets hope we can get mcdaniel.. shit it me be better defensive coordinators available for us if we go klint
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I think any other year Schwartz would likely get a HC offer, but with all of these openings - and maybe more coming, who ever doesn't get a HC job this year will be in line again next year. I don't really have a preference other than an OC for HC. I think that has to be set so Lamar and the OFF work in the same system for a good stretch. I'd like the same continuity on DEF, but I don't even think necessarily getting a young first time DC would mean that they would even be here more than a couple years if all goes well. I think it's even more likely that the stint as DC is short if we manage to get someone like Schwartz. If he or anyone of the DC's that would make a lateral move to us turn the DEF around, they'd be on interview lists next year and potentially gone. I think DEF's can take more of that fast turnover than OFF's can, so give me an OC to the HC position and do the best you can with DC.
 
I don't see the point, since the type of player they need to make it more effective is different.

While the Ravens have long used a more hybrid defense, based on a 3-4, the type of players we have make them a better fit for that defense.
I don't think we have the defensive ends or linebackers for a 4-3
 
The only names that excite me at all (in no order whatsoever)

Saleh
Flores
Schwartz
Spags
Minter

McDaniel
Stefanski
Kubiak

I dont see us wanting Matt Lafleur after last night, Tomlin, or McDermmot. Soooo yeah. Not a great year to need a new coach.
 
Argentina Raven said:
I don't see the point, since the type of player they need to make it more effective is different.

While the Ravens have long used a more hybrid defense, based on a 3-4, the type of players we have make them a better fit for that defense.
I don't think we have the defensive ends or linebackers for a 4-3
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again though, 3-4/4-3 doesn't matter
everyone's playing with 2 EDGEs, 2 IDL, 2LBs a nickel secondary personnel

the only thing that changes is how you defend the gaps in the run game (whether you have DTs that can 2-gap and steal gaps in the run game or whether you have to bring down DBs into the box to stay gap sound)

every other difference in terms of fronts is about player and usage differences in terms of play-calling and game-design rather than a fundamental difference between 4-3 and 3-4

if a defence isnt a hybrid at this point, that defensive coach is not going to last long in the league
 
UPennChem said:
The only names that excite me at all (in no order whatsoever)

Saleh
Flores
Schwartz
Spags
Minter

McDaniel
Stefanski
Kubiak

I dont see us wanting Matt Lafleur after last night, Tomlin, or McDermmot. Soooo yeah. Not a great year to need a new coach.
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my list is smaller at this point

Offensive:
McDaniel
Kubiak

Defensive:
Minter
Flores

if a Hafley/Shula aced an interview and win the job then that's great too, same with Mike LaFleur
 
Argentina Raven said:
I don't see the point, since the type of player they need to make it more effective is different.

While the Ravens have long used a more hybrid defense, based on a 3-4, the type of players we have make them a better fit for that defense.
I don't think we have the defensive ends or linebackers for a 4-3
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Is there a difference anymore?

Most teams, Ravens included, line up with 4 on the line, a maximum of 2 LBs and 5/6 DBs most of the time. They all want pass rushers who can get pressure, not matter what size they are, and linebackers that can cover if possible.

The biggest difference between body types is that some teams want a smaller, penetrating D line and some want bigger people inside. There is a bit of a correlation in that between the former 3/4 teams leaning size vs the ex 4/3 teams, speed, but even that is blurring. Every team wants interior pass rush now, and pentrating lines realize they also need run stuffers now with fewer bodies in the box.
 
Argentina Raven said:
Okay, explain to me how, with our personnel, we can create a front four similar to the Browns.

And in what position would you put Hamilton?
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Assuming Madubuike comes back, you already have the interior with Madubuike and Jones. You'll need a couple edge players. Green we like, obviously.
We won't be finding a Myles Garrett because he's closer to a unicorn than anything. That's why some of the better pass rush units, like the Eagles, prioritize depth at spots like edge. They can rotate 3-4 guys at any point in time. If all you have is four, and they have to rush the passer 40-50 times a game, they're going to get worn out late in the game.

I think Hamilton would continue to play a blend of Safety and SCB in an ideal system.
 
Argentina Raven said:
Okay, explain to me how, with our personnel, we can create a front four similar to the Browns.

And in what position would you put Hamilton?
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you have to invest in it

they've got 2 top 5 picks in their front 4 including Garrett who's a former number 1 pick and obvious future HOFer

same answer as the Texans front 4 - they've got a top 3 pick at 1 EDGE spot and their other EDGE is a guy they're paying a top 5 EDGE contract to

most of the top units are anchored by at least 1 high-paid elite EDGE guy and another high pick:
Steelers
Rams
Lions
Seahawks

Broncos really the only exception but they're paying like 3 or 4 guys on that front including a top 3 DL contract and a top 12 EDGE contract

so again the answer is investment

Ravens front's investment looks very different depending on Nnamdi Madubuike's future outlook
If he's back healthy then you're looking at a top 5 DL contract but nothing else and a few complementary guys - you're really looking for that EDGE guy... so you either need Mike Green to ascend into that guy or you need to draft someone high (which they may well try to do this season)

if Madubuike's retiring or his long-term prognosis is not good then the investment you need to make is a lot bigger

and you probably want to try and get younger on the DL anyway but if he's healthy and you're looking at a front 4 of Green, Madubuike, Jones and 1st round pick with Robinson, Peebles, Jenkins (and maybe Washington and Isaac) as rotational guys then you're in a good spot to build a strong front 4 from

and with Hamilton, i dont really understand the question, one of his many strengths is that you can line him up anywhere
 
rmcjacket23 said:
Assuming Madubuike comes back, you already have the interior with Madubuike and Jones. You'll need a couple edge players. Green we like, obviously.
We won't be finding a Myles Garrett because he's closer to a unicorn than anything. That's why some of the better pass rush units, like the Eagles, prioritize depth at spots like edge. They can rotate 3-4 guys at any point in time. If all you have is four, and they have to rush the passer 40-50 times a game, they're going to get worn out late in the game.

I think Hamilton would continue to play a blend of Safety and SCB in an ideal system.
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steelers have the high end talent at EDGE but also they have 3-4 guys they like who they can throw at opposing OL on a rotational basis
 
Anyway, I already know that the 3-4 or 4-3 formations as we know them are outdated. The Hamiltons make using a basic 3-4 more effective because it gives you versatility to disguise and create matchups, advantages, and pressures that you wouldn't otherwise have. I say Hamilton, but I could also say Emanwori or James.

Ultimately, the style you use is determined by the players you have. Our key defensive players today are Jones, Hamilton, and Roquan (even though he played poorly this year), and they adapt better to a basic 3-4. That's my point
 
Argentina Raven said:
Anyway, I already know that the 3-4 or 4-3 formations as we know them are outdated. The Hamiltons make using a basic 3-4 more effective because it gives you versatility to disguise and create matchups, advantages, and pressures that you wouldn't otherwise have. I say Hamilton, but I could also say Emanwori or James.

Ultimately, the style you use is determined by the players you have. Our key defensive players today are Jones, Hamilton, and Roquan (even though he played poorly this year), and they adapt better to a basic 3-4. That's my point
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every team runs a 4-2-5 as their base defence now

hamilton's usage is entirely separate to how you run your front 6 unless you're in a dime package and he's the dimebacker
teams can be multiple with their fronts and disguise from any front or look - having 3 vs 4 LBs makes no difference to whether you can line them all up on the LoS
 
That's what I'm saying, switching to a 4-3 defense, even though 4-2 is more common today, would require a significant investment not only in the draft but also in free agency. Using Hamilton as a backcourt player or safety against a four is a waste of potential. For me, Hamilton's strength is that with a 3-4 defense, he creates a lot of doubt for the opposing quarterback and gives your team plenty of options.
One of Orr's mistakes was not giving Simpson more playing time, as he was the closest thing to Queen on the team, which is fundamental for the defense to function well.
The other mistake was Decosta's in not bringing in a backup for Madubuike.
 
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Argentina Raven said:
Anyway, I already know that the 3-4 or 4-3 formations as we know them are outdated. The Hamiltons make using a basic 3-4 more effective because it gives you versatility to disguise and create matchups, advantages, and pressures that you wouldn't otherwise have. I say Hamilton, but I could also say Emanwori or James.

Ultimately, the style you use is determined by the players you have. Our key defensive players today are Jones, Hamilton, and Roquan (even though he played poorly this year), and they adapt better to a basic 3-4. That's my point
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I'm not sure why you think so. Every team would use Hamilton and Roquan very similarly to the Ravens.

You could argue that Jones as a bigger D Lineman, better against the run than the pass , is more suited to a 3/4, but every team would happily have him as part of their rotation. Maybe some teams would want him to focus more on developing the penetrating pass rushing ability has flashed on occasion but frankkly, good, I wish the Ravens would too.
 
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