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Exactly.

If you wanna be strong in the trenches, you gotta suck for years and commit to the trenches while you suck.

We have been punished for our excellence just like the league is designed to do.

Harbaugh still sucks.
Parity is mediocrity in my book.
 
Oh this, this all day. The Chiefs, Ravens and Eagles didn't just forget how to play football or build a roster. They are facing the consequences of picking low year after year in a league that long ago caught up and scoops all the major LOS talent in the top 15. None of these teams are winning at the LOS and that's why they aren't contenders.
Well said . The NFL is happy there will be some new blood in the playoffs this year.
 
Exactly.

If you wanna be strong in the trenches, you gotta suck for years and commit to the trenches while you suck.

We have been punished for our excellence just like the league is designed to do.

Harbaugh still sucks.

i don't think Harbaugh sucks, but yeah, 16 years, 1 conference championship wouldn't be acceptable at Maryland U. It sure as F ain't acceptable for the baltimore Ravens.
 
where did they pick their guys?
Stingley and Anderson are both top 3 picks, the highest drafted guy in that group of ravens is Hamilton who was picked 14th...

Ravens in their history have never drafted in the top 3 ever...

and the reason the texans only have 2 defensive first round picks the last 5 years is partly because they've only had 3 total first round picks the last 5 years... (all of which were top 3 picks by the way)

ravens have drafted 8 first round picks in the last 5 years, 5 of which were defensive guys (so only 1 away from being 50/50 offence-defence)
What im saying is that thats no excuse on why their defense is better than ours. They only drafted two defensive guys in the first rnd in the past 5yrs while we drafted 1 in the first dam near every year. Would we trade willie and stingley for all those guys we drafted without ever seeing them play? No! they either have better coaching or better players and its for sure better coaching because we looked great with macdonald
 
Oh this, this all day. The Chiefs, Ravens and Eagles didn't just forget how to play football or build a roster. They are facing the consequences of picking low year after year in a league that long ago caught up and scoops all the major LOS talent in the top 15. None of these teams are winning at the LOS and that's why they aren't contenders.
Patriots wasnt picking low for dam near 20yrs straight lol! Thats no excuse. Eagles OC terrible and kc has been picking guys like worthy and clyide edwards. We couldve kept guys like big Z and even makari but didnt. Im no expert but even i knew the oline was gonna be bad and that orr wasnt experienced enough to take over a team with no real pass rushers.. also, its not like we havent tried to get serviceable guys at LOS, it just hasnt worked out
 
Patriots wasnt picking low for dam near 20yrs straight lol! Thats no excuse. Eagles OC terrible and kc has been picking guys like worthy and clyide edwards. We couldve kept guys like big Z and even makari but didnt. Im no expert but even i knew the oline was gonna be bad and that orr wasnt experienced enough to take over a team with no real pass rushers.. also, its not like we havent tried to get serviceable guys at LOS, it just hasnt worked out

They picked low for 2-3 years and that's really all it takes for a good organization. Give EDC 2 straight top 5 picks, a #17 and a rookie QB contract and see what happens. And that said, the Pat aren't even that good. They nailed the Drake Maye pick and are executing but nobody is scared of that roster.
 
They picked low for 2-3 years and that's really all it takes for a good organization. Give EDC 2 straight top 5 picks, a #17 and a rookie QB contract and see what happens. And that said, the Pat aren't even that good. They nailed the Drake Maye pick and are executing but nobody is scared of that roster.
We have a really really talented roster! Or atleast had idk.. Us picking in the 20s last few years is not why we havent won and why we are currently ass. Even when we had guys on the oline, we still couldnt win. Had imo, the best dc in the nfl and in ravens history and still fell short! I agree with patriots though, nobody scared of them! They arent experienced enough imo.. even though i think we are ass, i still believe if we made the playoffs, we could possibly look like something
 
We have a really really talented roster! Or atleast had idk.. Us picking in the 20s last few years is not why we havent won and why we are currently ass. Even when we had guys on the oline, we still couldnt win. Had imo, the best dc in the nfl and in ravens history and still fell short! I agree with patriots though, nobody scared of them! They arent experienced enough imo.. even though i think we are ass, i still believe if we made the playoffs, we could possibly look like something

the compounding issue is that we are now to the part of Lamar's contract kicking in. That's why we didn;t have an extra 20m forthe Oline
 
Exactly.

If you wanna be strong in the trenches, you gotta suck for years and commit to the trenches while you suck.

We have been punished for our excellence just like the league is designed to do.

Harbaugh still sucks.

and you have to hit when you do get the chance at high-end talent
ravens have done pretty well at that

eagles have had a hoard of picks and lots of high picks to build with - so not really a fair comparison when you look at them

bills have not done well at that
chiefs have been ok in the 1st round but have found talents in other rounds to somewhat make up for it

excluding the eagles who have had 3 top 15 picks and have only once picked outside the top 22 since 2019, hard to say the ravens haven't been the best drafting team of the teams that are consistently picking low (by comparison with the eagles, since 2019, the ravens have only picked inside the top 22 twice)

the bills, chiefs and ravens have all struggled to find high-level trench play:

Chiefs tackle situation has been the story for most of mahomes' career, their DL has been carried by Chris Jones the whole time and they've not really had a difference maker at EDGE (or DL) outside of Jones but have done well filling in their IOL spots

Bills have managed to build a consistently good OL to work with and managed to get Ed Oliver in 2019 the last time they picked anywhere high on the DL, but like the Chiefs and Ravens have had an awful time trying to find edge rush

Ravens have had high turnover at OG since Yanda retired and likewise have struggled to replace Suggs despite lots of attempts but they have consistently found DL talent outside of the 1st round

the trenches are hard when you're not picking in the top 20
 
Well said . The NFL is happy there will be some new blood in the playoffs this year.

they will and they won't

feels like the quality of the product is down for sure
the teams that are new aren't necessarily there because they've got better, more that many of the good teams have all had down years

in the AFC
patriots feel a little bit like the 2019 ravens in a way - probably a year too early to be this successful
broncos don't feel that real to me at all but that defence is great
...
and then everyone else after those two feels like a mystery on a given week - i dont trust any of the AFC South teams or the Chargers
maybe the bills blast through the playoffs as a wildcard but they're such a flawed team
 
Patriots wasnt picking low for dam near 20yrs straight lol! Thats no excuse. Eagles OC terrible and kc has been picking guys like worthy and clyide edwards. We couldve kept guys like big Z and even makari but didnt. Im no expert but even i knew the oline was gonna be bad and that orr wasnt experienced enough to take over a team with no real pass rushers.. also, its not like we havent tried to get serviceable guys at LOS, it just hasnt worked out

patriots also didn't win a superbowl for 10 years
and looked very devoid of talent towards the end - that roster was being held up by BB and Brady without a shadow of a doubt - most obvious by how quickly that roster fell off
 
they will and they won't

feels like the quality of the product is down for sure
the teams that are new aren't necessarily there because they've got better, more that many of the good teams have all had down years

in the AFC
patriots feel a little bit like the 2019 ravens in a way - probably a year too early to be this successful
broncos don't feel that real to me at all but that defence is great
...
and then everyone else after those two feels like a mystery on a given week - i dont trust any of the AFC South teams or the Chargers
maybe the bills blast through the playoffs as a wildcard but they're such a flawed team
No way do the patriots deserve the title of 2019 Ravens, Lamar had a historic season and we beat all the best teams in the NFL. Patriots best win is the Bills, a division rival
 
patriots also didn't win a superbowl for 10 years
and looked very devoid of talent towards the end - that roster was being held up by BB and Brady without a shadow of a doubt - most obvious by how quickly that roster fell off
Think about how great of coach you have to be for not winning a SB in 10yrs when you had already won 3-4 prior is suppose to be some bad thing against you! Also, im not disagreeing, just stating that us not picking early has 0 to do with our inability to win and defense being bad! With these rosters we had, we shouldve been competing every year and had no less than 1-2 sbs!
 
No way do the patriots deserve the title of 2019 Ravens, Lamar had a historic season and we beat all the best teams in the NFL. Patriots best win is the Bills, a division rival
Lamar played terrible and we lost to ryan tannehill. Lamar was still throwing passes into the dirt that year which was his last season doing so
 
they will and they won't

feels like the quality of the product is down for sure
the teams that are new aren't necessarily there because they've got better, more that many of the good teams have all had down years

in the AFC
patriots feel a little bit like the 2019 ravens in a way - probably a year too early to be this successful
broncos don't feel that real to me at all but that defence is great
...
and then everyone else after those two feels like a mystery on a given week - i dont trust any of the AFC South teams or the Chargers
maybe the bills blast through the playoffs as a wildcard but they're such a flawed team
I trust Houston I think they are a very great team who's style translates. Yes - Cj can't outduel some qbs but he can any of the teams in the playoffs.

The bills are flawed but this could be there year as Allen's star power might be enough when going against teams who can't put up points
 
Pitta is putting some of the blame on the lack of focus Likely has been
 
Lamar played terrible and we lost to ryan tannehill. Lamar was still throwing passes into the dirt that year which was his last season doing so
Don’t forget his security blanket volleyballing the first drive to set the choke in motion. Or Lamar’s best WR Seth Roberts dropping a TD . Or Hurst feed me dropping a TD

This is one of my biggest issues when it has come to talking about the success or lack thereof that Lamar Jackson has had in the playoffs (because of course it's just Lamar Jackson right? Nobody else)

How can anyone forget just how piss poor all the weapons were? If he makes 10 throws and 1 is picked off but another 3 throws to score but the other guys don't execute....then what?
 
This is one of my biggest issues when it has come to talking about the success or lack thereof that Lamar Jackson has had in the playoffs (because of course it's just Lamar Jackson right? Nobody else)

How can anyone forget just how piss poor all the weapons were? If he makes 10 throws and 1 is picked off but another 3 throws to score but the other guys don't execute....then what?
And I watch every Raven and Bengal game and I see the ridiculous catches Burrow’s NUMBER 2 makes every single game and it’s a fucking joke
 
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