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2025 Offseason Thread

Also found this kind of funny. Bitched about being a backup and STer, only to get cut and make practice squad money instead of 53 man money to still be a backup and STer for the Chargers.

 
Besides still having Harbaugh, why do you think that?
No cap, so many holes, and EDC sounding like the same old EDC. He'll put together a good roster. Harbs will coach a good team. Lamar will field a good team. And then someone else will be better.

The thing I don't get is the Rams went all in and were supposed to have some multi-year fall off but where was that? They got a SB and made it just as far as we did this year.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I feel like from GM down to coordinators, we are so textbook ans conservative about everything. It's led to team after team where Lamar must be able to overcome the opponent and his own team hurting him.

To win a SB you gotta have a few high impact players. We have 1 and very brief flashes from Henry.
 
No cap, so many holes, and EDC sounding like the same old EDC. He'll put together a good roster. Harbs will coach a good team. Lamar will field a good team. And then someone else will be better.

The thing I don't get is the Rams went all in and were supposed to have some multi-year fall off but where was that? They got a SB and made it just as far as we did this year.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I feel like from GM down to coordinators, we are so textbook ans conservative about everything. It's led to team after team where Lamar must be able to overcome the opponent and his own team hurting him.

To win a SB you gotta have a few high impact players. We have 1 and very brief flashes from Henry.
Counterpoint. We had the #1 offense, very balanced (despite casual division rival fans not understanding that), Henry had over 2000 yards, our defense got much better as the year went on, we should have much better continuity with coaches. Hopefully we can improve in a few spots and not drop games to the horrible Steelers , Browns and Raiders, get one of the top 2 seeds
 
No cap, so many holes, and EDC sounding like the same old EDC. He'll put together a good roster. Harbs will coach a good team. Lamar will field a good team. And then someone else will be better.

The thing I don't get is the Rams went all in and were supposed to have some multi-year fall off but where was that? They got a SB and made it just as far as we did this year.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I feel like from GM down to coordinators, we are so textbook ans conservative about everything. It's led to team after team where Lamar must be able to overcome the opponent and his own team hurting him.

To win a SB you gotta have a few high impact players. We have 1 and very brief flashes from Henry.
I could not disagree more here. Lamar, Henry, Andrews (despite the bad game), Hamilton, and Humphrey are all high impact players. And then we have guys like Zay and Wiggins who aren't quite there yet but are building towards it. This is a damn good roster and one of the best in the league. Shit I'd say Philly (minus the QB - only thing holding them back from annihilating this league) and SF (when healthy) are the only 2 that rival us.
 
I could not disagree more here. Lamar, Henry, Andrews (despite the bad game), Hamilton, and Humphrey are all high impact players. And then we have guys like Zay and Wiggins who aren't quite there yet but are building towards it. This is a damn good roster and one of the best in the league. Shit I'd say Philly (minus the QB - only thing holding them back from annihilating this league) and SF (when healthy) are the only 2 that rival us.
Crazy right and we got roquan too along with adarius who is also very good.. its like we are wasting talent..we need some discipline and situational awareness or something..
 
No cap, so many holes, and EDC sounding like the same old EDC. He'll put together a good roster. Harbs will coach a good team. Lamar will field a good team. And then someone else will be better.

The thing I don't get is the Rams went all in and were supposed to have some multi-year fall off but where was that? They got a SB and made it just as far as we did this year.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I feel like from GM down to coordinators, we are so textbook ans conservative about everything. It's led to team after team where Lamar must be able to overcome the opponent and his own team hurting him.

To win a SB you gotta have a few high impact players. We have 1 and very brief flashes from Henry.
So a) the Rams had a fall off the next year and b) they've literally hit on like 80% of their draft picks the last two years. Their roster is loaded top to bottom with high-end, young, cheap contributors.

I don't see a lot of high-end, impact players on Washington or Buffalo.
 
I understand it will not be possible to keep Stanley/Marlo/Andrews and while most of us will prefer to keep Stanley/Marlo (because they are more premium positions and Likely is ready to take over, NOT because of the Div. game), there is also a business side that might end up with a different 1 or 2 of them being kept.

Tons of young talent ready to get locked up long term also so big offseason for EDC.
 
I could not disagree more here. Lamar, Henry, Andrews (despite the bad game), Hamilton, and Humphrey are all high impact players. And then we have guys like Zay and Wiggins who aren't quite there yet but are building towards it. This is a damn good roster and one of the best in the league. Shit I'd say Philly (minus the QB - only thing holding them back from annihilating this league) and SF (when healthy) are the only 2 that rival us.
In 2024 I would not call Andrews, Hamilton, or Humphrey impact players.

Hamilton last year and Marlon and Andrews from years ago were impact players. Henry is imo overwhelmingly the closest thing we've ever had to an impact them player other than Lamar.

I'm not saying we don't have a good roster. Its precisely that we have a good roster and not one with a small handful of best in the league guys which is why we'll make the second round of playoffs and get bounced.

I think you'd find it hard to argue that this teams juice came exclusively from Lamar and Henry. There were small flashes from guys like Likely, Flowers, and Bateman. On defense Marlon had a few INTs this year and Ardarius made about 4 big plays. Other than that, the defense was unbelievably devoid of impact guys.

We played to what we were. A good team that loses because it's turnover prone under pressure and incapable of getting TOs.
 
Crazy right and we got roquan too along with adarius who is also very good.. its like we are wasting talent..we need some discipline and situational awareness or something..
Nailed it, and couldn’t agree more. Situational awareness, especially in the postseason has been and is the missing link. Just when you think it’s there, blammo, it’s gone.
 
So a) the Rams had a fall off the next year and b) they've literally hit on like 80% of their draft picks the last two years. Their roster is loaded top to bottom with high-end, young, cheap contributors.

I don't see a lot of high-end, impact players on Washington or Buffalo.
OK there you go. I'm sure every Rams fan is happy. Also goes to show, if you do your job well as a GM, you'll have a good team.
 
In 2024 I would not call Andrews, Hamilton, or Humphrey impact players.

Hamilton last year and Marlon and Andrews from years ago were impact players. Henry is imo overwhelmingly the closest thing we've ever had to an impact them player other than Lamar.

I'm not saying we don't have a good roster. Its precisely that we have a good roster and not one with a small handful of best in the league guys which is why we'll make the second round of playoffs and get bounced.

I think you'd find it hard to argue that this teams juice came exclusively from Lamar and Henry. There were small flashes from guys like Likely, Flowers, and Bateman. On defense Marlon had a few INTs this year and Ardarius made about 4 big plays. Other than that, the defense was unbelievably devoid of impact guys.

We played to what we were. A good team that loses because it's turnover prone under pressure and incapable of getting TOs.
Still could not disagree more.

Andrews started slow and then was arguably the best TE in the league as he got going again.

Marlon was exceptional all season.

Hamilton is still a premium player but was forced into a role that didn't maximize him - doesn't make him not an impact player.

I think you're being dramatic after a tough loss. No one is questioning the large majority of the talent on this roster. We beat ourselves. We didn't get beat.

I'm all for being mad we beat ourselves again, but I don't see any possible way you can look at this roster and say we don't have impact players. We're full of them. We may just be missing 1 or 2 in a key area.
 
Still could not disagree more.

Andrews started slow and then was arguably the best TE in the league as he got going again.

Marlon was exceptional all season.

Hamilton is still a premium player but was forced into a role that didn't maximize him - doesn't make him not an impact player.

I think you're being dramatic after a tough loss. No one is questioning the large majority of the talent on this roster. We beat ourselves. We didn't get beat.

I'm all for being mad we beat ourselves again, but I don't see any possible way you can look at this roster and say we don't have impact players. We're full of them. We may just be missing 1 or 2 in a key area.
You called me dramatic last year too. I don't take it as an insult whatsoever. I would say I'm not dramatic at all, but that my view of the world is just harsher than yours. You see things in a very nuanced and squishy fashion. That's why I really like reading what you have to say.

I see things in a very cut and dry, absolute kind of way. Just a difference in opinion. :)
 
You called me dramatic last year too. I don't take it as an insult whatsoever. I would say I'm not dramatic at all, but that my view of the world is just harsher than yours. You see things in a very nuanced and squishy fashion. That's why I really like reading what you have to say.

I see things in a very cut and dry, absolute kind of way. Just a difference in opinion. ^_^
This is going to sound really harsh but I'll go for it anyways...

I have no problems with pessimism. This is far from a perfect team, but it's still a really good one. Saying we don't have impact players just feels so far removed from reality though. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people that agree with that view.
 
Well @Simba , EDC must've heard you loud and clear. Without question, we need one just for depth alone.


It makes a ton of sense. Get someone with range back there and let Ar'Darius play more downhill, and let Kyle do Kyle things again. It opens up all of that disguise that made the D so good last year.
 
Well @Simba , EDC must've heard you loud and clear. Without question, we need one just for depth alone.


For the love of GOD please get a ball hawk or two back there
 
This is going to sound really harsh but I'll go for it anyways...

I have no problems with pessimism. This is far from a perfect team, but it's still a really good one. Saying we don't have impact players just feels so far removed from reality though. I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people that agree with that view.
:) :)
 
No cap, so many holes, and EDC sounding like the same old EDC. He'll put together a good roster. Harbs will coach a good team. Lamar will field a good team. And then someone else will be better.

The thing I don't get is the Rams went all in and were supposed to have some multi-year fall off but where was that? They got a SB and made it just as far as we did this year.

Maybe I'm just cynical but I feel like from GM down to coordinators, we are so textbook ans conservative about everything. It's led to team after team where Lamar must be able to overcome the opponent and his own team hurting him.

To win a SB you gotta have a few high impact players. We have 1 and very brief flashes from Henry.
For me, its actually simpler. Buffalo wasn't better than us. I think it'd be impossible to argue that.
Everything we achieve in 2025 will almost certainly be tied to improved execution by players already on the roster. To put it more simply... Buffalo beats us on Sunday if we had Maxx Crosby. There's not a single personnel upgrade I can point to that would have made a difference in that game. Not one. And if there was one, shockingly to say, it was at the QB position.

Unlike every other postseason loss, where the entire fanbase greatly overvalues the last game they saw and spend the entire offseason talking about the changes they need to make to not lose the last game they saw, I see none. I see several high-end players that simply needed to do their jobs better, and they didn't. And personnel changes won't fix that. Either they'll play better, or they won't, and the outcome will be what it is.

If you take the whole season in review, and identify areas that were at several different points "issues", then the list of potential personnel upgrades would look like:
1. Oline, specifically Guard (and the left side if Stanley walks). Was bad in some spots, got better as the year went on.
2. Safety play. Was atrocious for half the year, then got fixed. Is that fix temporary or permanent?
3. Inside linebacker play in passing situation, and/or defending TEs/RBs and the middle of the field.

I don't think any of those three areas were problems in why we lost to Buffalo, but those are the three focus areas for me.
 
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