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rossihunter2 said:
You answered your own question defensively…

Madubuike
Roquan
Hamilton

And hopefully we’re adding oweh and Travis jones to the list this year too

And idk that rice/worthy’s the kind of argument you wanna make… kelce’s the best weapon in that offence, worthy scored 2 TDs on a bust and a reverse - if you’re gonna talk about him and rice then zay’s easily our equivalent on offence
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At this point in their careers it’s pretty easy for me to say the Andrews/Likely combo is more dangerous than Kelce.
 
Sandtown said:
Given that Ben Powers was basically doing the same thing as Ben Cleveland was doing before he eventually won the left guard position I think Harbaugh assessment of Cleveland wasn't limited. Powers was practicing at center and he wasn't even mentioned as being in the completion at all at left guard position that year but somehow he won the left guard position anyway.

He showed Harbaugh he was the better candidate for the job. Even though I feel like Cleveland is the better candidate for the right guard job it doesn't matter if he didn't seem to show it to the coaching staff regardless of what position he was practicing at . Maybe the coaching staff wanted to see him show more hungar to start or more drive to be better but he didn't. Maybe Faalele worked more harder than Cleveland did . Maybe when Cleveland and others went home Faalele stayed to keep working on his craft as a guard . Stuff like that impress the coaching staff
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It's not more complicated than Harbs is making an example out of him
 
rossihunter2 said:
You answered your own question defensively…

Madubuike
Roquan
Hamilton

And hopefully we’re adding oweh and Travis jones to the list this year too

And idk that rice/worthy’s the kind of argument you wanna make… kelce’s the best weapon in that offence, worthy scored 2 TDs on a bust and a reverse - if you’re gonna talk about him and rice then zay’s easily our equivalent on offence
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I just used Rice/Worthy to keep with the WRs. I agree Zay is their level. But they're a huge tier below the other WRs. All 3 of them.

We have the talent on defense but thus far they don't seem to be doing what they were last year. They're good players. Really good players. So if they're not killing it, it's something about the play calling or the situational positions of the game.

I believe the defense has a better chance of getting right than our offense does
 
OURavensFan said:
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This is damning. Faalele is good against bull rushers but against guys with quick feet who can use swim moves and get outside of him...he struggles bad. I think you need Ben Cleveland in there ASAP. Faalele just isn't a fit at Guard and i'm not sure that he will ever be a quality starter.
 
Militant X 1 said:
The difference, to me, is that the Cowboys are playing this game at home (again) in Jerry's World. So, I doubt they will go out like chumps as they did last week against the Saints. The Ravens will have an uphill climb to avoid being 0-3.
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I thought we played well on the road last year and well again in KC this year. Boys might feel leas pressure on the road
 
Kinda crazy to think are season could be over by Sunday if we don't win this.… wild
 
Tank said:
At this point in their careers it’s pretty easy for me to say the Andrews/Likely combo is more dangerous than Kelce.
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They could be a great dynamic duo if we properly scheme them together. That remains to be seen...
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Kinda crazy to think are season could be over by Sunday if we don't win this.… wild
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Yeah, since it's only going to get harder after them. After the Cowboys the team has to play the Bills, Bengals, Commies, and Buccs. The Commies should be a win, but we could end up 1-7 through the first half of the season without some real adjustments.
 
UPennChem said:
I just used Rice/Worthy to keep with the WRs. I agree Zay is their level. But they're a huge tier below the other WRs. All 3 of them.

We have the talent on defense but thus far they don't seem to be doing what they were last year. They're good players. Really good players. So if they're not killing it, it's something about the play calling or the situational positions of the game.

I believe the defense has a better chance of getting right than our offense does
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we've been got by a few deep balls by Davante with good coverage (and a couple of bogus DPI calls)
we had 2 coverage busts in week 1

there were some worrying completions over the middle in the 2nd half vs the raiders - havent watched the all-22 this week of the defence so no idea what caused those voids but it's probably a combination of some LB and Safety mistakes

and these sorts of things were going wrong at the beginning of Mike Mac's tenure too - it's annoying that we faced the Chiefs in week 1 and then threw this game in week 2 but this defence should get better
 
rossihunter2 said:
we've been got by a few deep balls by Davante with good coverage (and a couple of bogus DPI calls)
we had 2 coverage busts in week 1

there were some worrying completions over the middle in the 2nd half vs the raiders - havent watched the all-22 this week of the defence so no idea what caused those voids but it's probably a combination of some LB and Safety mistakes

and these sorts of things were going wrong at the beginning of Mike Mac's tenure too - it's annoying that we faced the Chiefs in week 1 and then threw this game in week 2 but this defence should get better
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I’m not sweating the defense. You can see they are good, they’re just ironing out shit and having a new DC who’s never called plays before will do that.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I’m not sweating the defense. You can see they are good, they’re just ironing out shit and having a new DC who’s never called plays before will do that.
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I feel the same way and Im not sure why Zach hasnt been given the benefit of the doubt here. These things take to to iron out...Alot of doom and gloom for such a small sample size
 
BoredMarine13 said:
Kinda crazy to think are season could be over by Sunday if we don't win this.… wild
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I know history says it could be over, but with the extra game and expanded tournament I think the chance to still be in it at 0 - 3 or even 0 - 4 is possible. Hopefully we won't need to worry about that scenario. lol
 
UPennChem said:
It's not more complicated than Harbs is making an example out of him
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Cleveland was considered a favorite draft pick of John Harbaugh. He probably didn't like at all when Cleveland failed the conditioning test twice or more some years back but I don't think he's making a example out of him. Honestly if he was then he probably wouldn't be active on game day but it's possible he's trying to get more out of Cleveland though. It's possible the coaching staff and front office don't think Cleveland has tap into what he really could be as a player. Maybe they see him as future pro bowler with Marsha Yanda type play but instead he's practicing below that standards. Maybe he doesn't do enough in weight room and hasn't maximized I'm aware of how he played last year but last year was last year. Obvious it didn't matter to the coaching staff
 
I feel like we win this game 3-3 is almost a given, but hopefully better. The Patriots looked awful and beat the Bengals, I know we lost to the Raiders but Minshew is better than Brisset, Crosby, Adams Bowers are way better than anyone on the Patriots. I don’t see why we can’t win the next 3 games and then some, just need that first win. I think we can beat the Bills at home
 
rossihunter2 said:
You answered your own question defensively…

Madubuike
Roquan
Hamilton

And hopefully we’re adding oweh and Travis jones to the list this year too

And idk that rice/worthy’s the kind of argument you wanna make… kelce’s the best weapon in that offence, worthy scored 2 TDs on a bust and a reverse - if you’re gonna talk about him and rice then zay’s easily our equivalent on offence
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I think Zay is better than both of them
 
RavensMania said:
I think Zay is better than both of them
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I think Zay as a player is better, but doesn't get utilized downfield nearly as much as he should. He is by far the best player with the ball in his hands, but it seems that Monken likes having one player to dump the ball off to on short routes and it's always him. And I guess it makes sense with Likely and Andrews clogging the middle, I think Zay would flourish in a AB type route tree roll, but a lot of the players on the Ravens offense seem to flourish in the same part of the field.
 
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