The Raven
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Yep. People like to talk about Chicago's laws and whatnot but they don't realize that the surrounding counties have very loose gun laws, with many gun shops located right past the city border.
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Yep. People like to talk about Chicago's laws and whatnot but they don't realize that the surrounding counties have very loose gun laws, with many gun shops located right past the city border.
ok well hardline muslims have misogyny at the heart of their faith much like hardline christians... not sure what the mayor being muslim has to do with anything given that he was voted in by londoners which the most recent figures suggest is 50% non-religious, 20% christian and mostly non-secular - not sure how this would suggest any sort of muslim takeover
also sharia law is a vast term - there are different extents to which you can follow sharia law and anyway, one of the key tenets of sharia law is respect for the law of the land you live in - not sure where you are getting your sharia court numbers given that all research ive seen has said its hard to tell how many they are and while these courts favour men in most situations they do also deal only in family issues and disputes and have no bearing or expected bearing on criminality and do not overrule the actual court of law
i can tell you that there are muslim communities all over the uk and not once have i encountered or heard of anyone who has encountered resistance to them being in those areas at any time of day or place so your assumptions are misplaced and based in fear rather than facts/experiences
and in terms of graffiti saying no whites allowed after 8pm i could probably show you infinitely more swastikas etc. graffitied all over the place
not sure what those videos of police being chased out of "no go zones" are given that ive never seen one and that no go zones dont exist in the UK outside of a sailing boat
and again im gonna assume youve never been to the UK before because breitbart is not a respected/accepted publication here and your assumptions about this country are way off
Inqui
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I went looking for news on that incident and along with Breitbart it was also picking up coverage on The Daily Star, The Mirror, Metro and The Sun - as well as a site called White Genocide (ugh). Most of which are Murdoch papers iirc, but the UK scene has some pretty depressing characters too.
But you're right. I find that the people who are most concerned about the rising presence of Islam (or however you want to phrase it) are usually the people who've had the least contact with Muslims and haven't taken the time to learn about Islam itself. Usually they're surprised to learn how similar Islam is to Christianity (indeed the current sectarian conflicts in the Middle East are similar to the old conflicts between Catholics and Protestants) and it's not a coincidence that the radicals usually come from places that are the biggest clusterfucks and those types are usually driven by dreams of the glory days of a prosperous Islam as opposed to the dominant Islam people fear - but that's a topic for another thread.
Inqui
Pro Bowler
Infrastructure seems to have fallen by the wayside almost from day one (there haven't been any provisions for it that I've seen in any of his budget proposals to date) unless you count the wall. But that recent tax bill looks like a clusterfuck in the making. Aside from how most of the tax cuts benefit the richest 1% and 0.1% of the population (who didn't see that coming....) he's still working off optimistic (read: exaggerated) growth expectations and hasn't actually costed any of the cuts themselves (ie, there hasn't been any indication of where that money's coming from) - both of which figure to blow a hole in the already tenuous budget.
The market's already cottoning on to this, as bond yields have been rising due to sell-offs sparked by the increased chance of a budget default (in which case said bonds would be worth nothing). The effects of that are so far-reaching that it actually affects me personally with interest rates here (and in every other developed economy) likely to rise as central banks compensate for currency fluctations and asset prices, making my mortgage more expensive. So yeah, you can say I'm a little annoyed with how all this is shaking out.
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Sledge Hammer
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Dude I know people that can make guns. Outlaw guns or not crims will find'em. Better off able to defend yourself. Bullies don't pick on dudes as big as themselves. Bullies, killers crims prey on defenseless people and catch people with their pants down. An unarmed person is as appealing to a killer or robber as a weak geek is to a bully. People that can stand up to the bully aren't so appealing.
I found this hilarious, but Mike Pence tweeted a picture of him at the Colts game with his wife and said he left because of the kneeling.
Turns out the picture he tweeted was from 2014.
This is getting really sad.
Turns out the picture he tweeted was from 2014.
This is getting really sad.
pahahahaha
Willbacker
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Christians don't have misogyny. Sorry we treat our women with respect. Lmao at your response that one of the "key tenets" is respect for the law of the land. Just google those vids about police being chased out of no go zones. Don't pretend they're not out there. If you haven't from the one vid I posted you will never learn and just be totally oblivious. I've also been to Scotland not England tho. Is this link lying and if so how?
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/uk-sharia-law.html.
If you do decide to go into these zones which I think you should do for an experiment please don't take your girlfriend. Oh and in case you don't believe those female kids were raped.............
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/07/opinion/sunday/ross-douthat-rape-and-rotherham.html
Willbacker
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Are you saying he wasn't at the game?
ummmm - the bible is full of verses that demean and diminish women vs men and place women on a pedestal below men, in britain, the first female bishop was only allowed to happen in 2014, women suffer from diminished roles and patriarchal assumptions and stupid phrases directed towards them in church all the time - here's a recent example: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...yny-in-the-church_us_58f8f71ce4b018a9ce592e05
christianity is built on gender roles but they manifest in a way that subjugates women and elevates men: its guilt about sex, its insistence on female subjection, its dread of female seduction...
the bible isnt particularly tolerant of homosexuality either... or any non-heteronormative male dominated societal behaviour
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as for the videos you talk about - the only ones i could find was a 10 minute video with a misinformed title - that "mob" was a multicultural, multi-ethnic, multi-religion, met-police-authorised "free palestine" march in London and has nothing to do with Islam or no-go-zones - so you are entirely misinformed - get out of your bubble and see beyond the anti-muslim conservative propaganda that seems to dominate your media consumption
so when i say these no-go-zones are not there, i mean it - i am not pretending, the cities where these so-called no go zones seem to be reported are actually in the most integrated multicultural places in the UK and the world
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and that rotherham scandal was lightning in a bottle and is by no means endemic of the rest of the UK - and i think you'll find that the British Muslim community denounced their actions, highlighted all their un-Muslim behaviours
and while the authorities turned a blind eye it was not through fear it was through them being scummy awful people and the fact that after 400 grand was spent on a report on the systemic failures not one charge is being brought against any senior council figures is unacceptable but things are being done to fic the issue:
those 1400 poor women/girls were abused over a 30 year period and it was not an entirely muslim or even asian problem, since 2010 when the scandal came to light there have been 26 convicted of crimes and investigations are ongoing with more trials upcoming for historical offences
however that does not mean the event was in any way condoned or accepted and in no way is it a reflection on islam in general in the same way that no one condemns all catholics for the boston scandal
Based on the picture, he was not.
But that isn't the issue. Why are they trying so hard to make this such a big deal?
Cville-Raven
MVP
The entire administration is a complete joke
The Raven
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Trump's ratings are down so they needed a new plot arc to drive viewership. It's just too bad that we've already seen this episode.
Cville-Raven
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Coming from someone who was raised a Lutheran, the fact that you honestly believe this is both hilarious and sad. Guess Christianity really made those priests at Seton Keough respect women.
Willbacker
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You give me a Huffpo article. Seriously that's laughable and I believe those are bullshit tweets. Here I thought you was gonna show me quotes from the bible lol. I mean if you want to compare how Christians treat their women compared to Muslims lets do it. First they're allowed to have a job, drive a car and go as they please. They're allowed to dress as they want, worship as they want and they're allowed to tell their husband no. I can go on and on and on. If a woman chooses to live in submission that's her choice not the law. Women under Christianity have a voice. Muslim not so much.
OK the 10 min vid you're talking about I heard Allahu Akbar repeated over and over several times and the people looked Muslim to me. Just saying........ and no the Rotherdam situation was not lightning in a bottle (and it was also 20 yrs not 30) there has been a major increase in forcible rape especially in Germany and Sweden. I guess when you watched the 60 minutes video I guess you just yawned when they were harrassing a girl cuz her skirt was too short or when they was yelling at the gay guys to get out of their "community". So in other words you're telling me there is no strictly Muslim areas in your cities. They're multicultural. OK
Willbacker
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They closed a lot of Catholic schools down. Wth you talking about??
Willbacker
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This was planned for him to go to the game well before Trump chastised the players for not standing for the flag. Now you guys are pissed off cuz he walked out. What he cant protest too?
Now be honest what do you think about Jerry Jones.
The Raven
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Mike Pence's "protest" cost taxpayers $200,000 at least. The players' protest didn't cost jack shit. Any take on that?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-much-did-mike-pences-nfl-walkout-cost-taxpayers-2017-10-08
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat..._cost_taxpayers_hundreds_of_thousands_of.html
Moreover, the player protest is for a valid cause. Pence's stunt (it was not a protest, it was a stunt) was just fanning the flames of the culture war to drive ratings. There's a difference.
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