I will be honest that is a scary number to me just because I cant imagine him holding up over 16+ games if he runs it that much because he took some big hits.
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The Lamar Jackson, the Cincinnati Bengals, and the Walt Coleman
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I will be honest that is a scary number to me just because I cant imagine him holding up over 16+ games if he runs it that much because he took some big hits.
cobrajet
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I kind of agree with this. It may have opened things up and kept the Bengals from stacking the box but Lamar was getting the job done. It worked out in the end and we can now surprise a few teams when we catch them off guard with it at a later date.
Grim
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Interesting fact: Lamar’s first start is against CIN and Joe’s first start was against CIN. Joe was 15 of 29 for 51.7 and 129 yards. I’ll let you check how it compares but that’s not bad
cobrajet
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That is certainly a valid argument.
that's never going to be the plan
he's not a wildcat qb he's a real qb who throws the ball like a real pocket passing qb - he scrambles to pass not to run, he reads the field vertically like a true pocket passer - he just happens to be ultra athletic
Joe Flacco is still the better quarterback and I even think Robert Griffin is as well. Lamar Jackson did his thing but its not like The Bengals had a lot of game tape on him to study from.Im not taking anything away from Lamar Jackson but its not like the guy went all Patrick Malhomes or Aaron Rodgers against The Bengals.
If The Ravens coaching staff figures that Lamar Jackson can continue to give them a spark towards run game and think that is a way that can help them win the next 6 games then I guess they keep Lamar Jackson as their starting quarterback. Other than that im not really sure if Lamar Jackson did enough yet for The Ravens to keep him as their starting quarterback. I again acknowledge that Jackson did his thing but regardless of him being the future or not it is important for teams to have a backup quarterback that can help the team win games win needed.
Sorry to ruin your narrative but nope. I'm sure it feels good to assume that there is only one correct way to see things and other people have an ulterior motive but I don't have one. I simply subscribe to seeing is believing and until I see someone do a thing then I do not just assume they can especially when there is evidence to the contrary readily available.
Also why play Lamar if RG3 throws better? Did you see how athletic Lamar was? RG3 can't run like that. The gameplan was clearly to run on a bad run defense and the best player for that was lamar.
so you're telling me you've seen Lamar try and fail to throw the deep ball? when?
Dom McRaven
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So today was the very first Ravens game I've ever been to. I gotta tell ya, the atmosphere was freakin' fantastic!
-Folks, when Lamar took the field for the first possession on offense, the crowd got hyped.
-A few of the fans I was sitting with agreed with why the fuck is Hurst and Andrews not getting more snaps. Fuck you coaches.
-Pass rush is nonexistent.
-When the jumbrotron showed #52 in the skybox with Biscotti, the crowd went NUTS!
-Where was Buck Allen?
-We were DREADING that final possession by the Bengals. Thank you Humphrey!
As for Lamar, he'll go through some growing pains, but I'm so glad I got to witness his first career start live. As for the conservative playbook, I remember the Seahawks doing something similar with Wilson. So perhaps, they're doing something like that with Lamar. I expect him to throw more against OAK next week, but patience is the key. Prior to his INT, the fan I was sitting next to was happy we had no turnovers. I told her not to jinx it. INT happened. She looked at me with much disappointment and goes "Is there like a Ravens jail that I need to go to?" I told her, "Nah. I got something BETTER than that. To the Pit of Misery you go. Dilly dilly!" You already know the deal...
-Folks, when Lamar took the field for the first possession on offense, the crowd got hyped.
-A few of the fans I was sitting with agreed with why the fuck is Hurst and Andrews not getting more snaps. Fuck you coaches.
-Pass rush is nonexistent.
-When the jumbrotron showed #52 in the skybox with Biscotti, the crowd went NUTS!
-Where was Buck Allen?
-We were DREADING that final possession by the Bengals. Thank you Humphrey!
As for Lamar, he'll go through some growing pains, but I'm so glad I got to witness his first career start live. As for the conservative playbook, I remember the Seahawks doing something similar with Wilson. So perhaps, they're doing something like that with Lamar. I expect him to throw more against OAK next week, but patience is the key. Prior to his INT, the fan I was sitting next to was happy we had no turnovers. I told her not to jinx it. INT happened. She looked at me with much disappointment and goes "Is there like a Ravens jail that I need to go to?" I told her, "Nah. I got something BETTER than that. To the Pit of Misery you go. Dilly dilly!" You already know the deal...
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balfan23
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IMO the timing of Joe’s injury made it such that really there is only one outcome that would cause us to start Joe again and that’s if Jackson looked lost out there. If he played reasonably well and won then you have to ride him. If he played reasonably well and we lost the season would be basically over and it’s time to start transition. Only if he was atrocious would it make sense to start Flacco going forward. That wasn’t the case.
cobrajet
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Sounds like you had a great time brother!
Some of his ducks in the preseason. Was it months ago? Yes. However it is the last thing I have seen and the only NFL tape of him that exists and considering that was his knock coming out of school I will wait to see evidence to the contrary before I say it is no longer his problem. I hate being the downer but I just feel that seeing is believing and until I see I will not believe.
It is one game, but you can’t takw anything away from this game. More responsibility will come
Ellicottraven
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There were reports that ticket prices for this game had spiked up to 164% of previous weeks. That tells me there was excitement among fans and attendance was way up. That is the intangible benefit of having an exciting player like Lamar Jackson. He is going to bring in fans from across the world with just his style of play and dynamism. But, we'll wait and see if he can protect himself and burn defenses when they stack the front.... but I'm happy for you and glad you can say forever you watched Lamar's first game.
UPennChem
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Thank you for that analysis. It's always nice to hear how other's see things. They were just concerns. I think the biggest concern is the staff's total lack of regard for his body in not opening up the playbook. Because of that, I don't think that gave him the opportunity to play the game I think he could've had. With all that being said, it led to what happened in today's game. Which in my opinion, just didn't look right. It didn't look like an sustainable NFL offense and a few quirky things by Lamar that I hope are resolved by better play calling.
Ellicottraven
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You make valid points and that is why moving forward it is tricky for Harbaugh. If Joe gets healthy for Atlanta and Lamar has won both the games leading up to that, then what do you do? Play Flacco or Lamar? What if you start Flacco and end up losing the game? What then for Harbs? I don't want to be Harbs if and when Lamar beats the Raiders and Flacco is fully healthy.
it goes 2 ways - you dont want him taking a beating getting tackled the whole time - but at least when you're the runner you can mitigate risk by various methods (sliding - which id like to see him do in some places, get to the sideline - which he already does, slipping forward and down under the contact - which he did a couple of times to avoid a big hit) - you have those options as a runner
the other option is obviously to keep the ball in his hands and through the air - the problem there is you need good pass protection in order to maintain any effectiveness or consistency through the air - and our OL was banged up and not good in pass pro and looking at the gameplan i feel like that's how they felt - because it looks like they felt he would get lit up in the pocket if he just dropped back over and over again
different schools of thought - im looking forward to seeing lamar throw more so my hope is that it was a worry for the coaches based on keeping it simple for lamar's first start and that it was a worry about the OL play - hopefully they will open up the playbook moving forward
balfan23
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I'm afraid it is something we're going to need to get used to. I'm in NC and I've watched Cam get drilled so many times on plays where many other QBs would have gotten flags. Running QBs just don't get sympathy. They are not the golden boys and they don't get the golden boy calls.
He's just going to need to get a little more Russel Wilson in him and get down when on the field and giving himself up to the sidelines more.
balfan23
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Especially their first game with limited time due to illness. We just need to see it open up gradually over the coming weeks.