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29BmoreBird22 said:
No, no... Kaep never jammed it in the face of the NFL. He literally kneeled and the media took over that one. Can't blame Kaep for that.

And we're not seeing the issue here when Kaep is protesting police brutality (which happens in the US), but neo-Nazis are protesting for white supremacy and we have a bigger issue with Kaep because the media made a story of it?
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lol. So he didn't know that the media would pick up on it. Really?

Where are you seeing this "bigger issue"? Because nobody wants the Kaepernick circus to come to their town?

I think many took Colin wearing pig socks not as a protest against police brutality, but a protest against police authority in general.
 
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29BmoreBird22 said:
I don't think people feel ill will toward them because when Kaepernick protested, we sure as hell knew about it. Like, are we upset that he voiced it and we don't like that players are exercising first amendment rights or they can do it so long as they never make a peep about it? Kaep just the sacrificial lamb?

I'm trying to figure out why there's such an outrage at Kaep, but little outrage over the Charlottesville protests, relatively speaking. I was actually really shocked and appalled to find most people okay with the Charlottesville protests simply due to the fact that Kaep and BLM protests happen.
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It's valid to wonder at why there is so much more "business" and conjecture drummed up over Kaepernick than there is over the swastika being openly paraded about.

Kepernick as a sacrificial lamb? That would suggest a political collusion on the part of the NFL. I don't know but I'm surprised by almost nothing and it isn't unfathomable to me.
 
Tank said:
lol. So he didn't know that the media would pick up on it. Really?

Where are you seeing this "bigger issue"? Because nobody wants the Kaepernick circus to come to their town?

I think many took Colin wearing pig socks not as a protest against police brutality, but a protest against police authority in general.
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I'm sure he knew and wanted attention to help bring light to the issue, but is it reasonable for the media to have blown up a quiet, peaceful protest like this? No, not at all.

Like I said, people lose their minds over Kaep, but are silent on neo-Nazis because Kaep protested. That's the bigger issue- the silence and the double standard.

And there was outrage far before the pig socks. That just didn't aid the cause any.
 
Not bringing Kaepernick on board to Baltimore with and offensive coordinator that knows him don't make sense. So i do believe this was the owners decision. Jay Cutler got called out of retirement because of his familiarity with the offense and head coach. Everyone agreed that makes the most sense just like Kaepernick would have for us. We have a team in place to really make a run for a Superbowl. He has already stated that he'll stand for the national anthem to draw less attention to himself and not the team.
 
Edgar said:
It's valid to wonder at why there is so much more "business" and conjecture drummed up over Kaepernick than there is over the swastika being openly paraded about.

Kepernick as a sacrificial lamb? That would suggest a political collusion on the part of the NFL. I don't know but I'm surprised by almost nothing and it isn't unfathomable to me.
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I say sacrificial lamb because the NFL is not signing him and it's quite clearly tied to the political protests (many players have said they're scared to protest due to job security) and so the NFL won't sign him to silence the outrage of the public.
 
Purple&Black#20 said:
Not bringing Kaepernick on board to Baltimore with and offensive coordinator that knows him don't make sense. So i do believe this was the owners decision. Jay Cutler got called out of retirement because of his familiarity with the offense and head coach. Everyone agreed that makes the most sense just like Kaepernick would have for us. We have a team in place to really make a run for a Superbowl. He has already stated that he'll stand for the national anthem to draw less attention to himself and not the team.
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Colin makes zero sense for the Ravens because of the simple fact that they don't need a QB right now, they need O linemen.
 
Tank said:
Colin makes zero sense for the Ravens because of the simple fact that they don't need a QB right now, they need O linemen.
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That would only be true if you could guarantee Joe's fitness all season. I'd like an O lineman but the way Mallet's playing, we need a better back up.
 
ZonaRaven said:
As I've stated, me not wanting Kaep is first and foremost a football decision. If Flacco isn't our QB, then our season is lost regardless of who is our QB from the pool of available candidates and Mallett. For that reason, it is a better long term decision for us to not sign Kaep who might win us enough games for us to miss out on a top talent.
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You don't want a player because he's too good? An unusual stance but fair enough. Does that mean it wouldn't be worth improving the line because Flacco might get injured but we might still miss a top ten pick if our run game improves?
 
I got about what I expected in responses- no one actually has an answer for the massive double standard and the fact that Colin protesting is still a media story (albeit, one that has died down 90%) is still pretty silly to me.
 
Tank said:
Do you think any NFL team would hire the guy that organized the Charlottesville protests as their events coordinator?
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And as one last aside, it's pretty ridiculous that we equate what Kaep did to what just happened in Charlottesville.

This is about all you need to know about how far down the wrong road the image of Kaep has gone.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
I got about what I expected in responses- no one actually has an answer for the massive double standard and the fact that Colin protesting is still a media story (albeit, one that has died down 90%) is still pretty silly to me.
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There is no response. Equating the two makes no sense.

The main reason the Kaepernick story went on so long is that it's the offseason and there were a lot of football journalists with nothing to report on. Now there is more football news, it's dying down.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
I'm sure he knew and wanted attention to help bring light to the issue, but is it reasonable for the media to have blown up a quiet, peaceful protest like this? No, not at all.

Like I said, people lose their minds over Kaep, but are silent on neo-Nazis because Kaep protested. That's the bigger issue- the silence and the double standard.

And there was outrage far before the pig socks. That just didn't aid the cause any.
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For me, I've never considered putting Kaep's protest and the neo-Nazi's protest in the same thought. One is innocent as you've mentioned and the other (neo-Nazi) is so utterly absurd and stupid that I cannot comprehend comparing the two. In terms of a response, yes it is a double standard if you're drawing comparisons/parallels.
 
Tank said:
Colin makes zero sense for the Ravens because of the simple fact that they don't need a QB right now, they need O linemen.
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No this comment makes zero sense. QB right now....yes! What are preseason games for? Chemistry, timing etc. Why wouldn't you sign him now so he can play in the last two preseason games. That too makes no sense.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
And as one last aside, it's pretty ridiculous that we equate what Kaep did to what just happened in Charlottesville.

This is about all you need to know about how far down the wrong road the image of Kaep has gone.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was you that brought up the analogy.
 
Serrell Tuggs said:
You don't want a player because he's too good? An unusual stance but fair enough. Does that mean it wouldn't be worth improving the line because Flacco might get injured but we might still miss a top ten pick if our run game improves?
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For what it's worth, I hardly think Kaep is "too good" of a player. Quite the contrary as I think he'd maybe win us 5-6 games and while I think a large portion of the league is clearly staying away from him and not even considering it, I don't think the entire league is. Even if 1/2 the teams in the NFL are staying away from him due to politics, there is likely a large portion who could sign him needing a QB desperately and they aren't signing him. We will agree to disagree on the % of teams staying away from him but there is clearly some doubt as to whether Kaep is committed or good enough to start in some NFL circles.

Purple&Black#20 said:
Not bringing Kaepernick on board to Baltimore with and offensive coordinator that knows him don't make sense. So i do believe this was the owners decision. Jay Cutler got called out of retirement because of his familiarity with the offense and head coach. Everyone agreed that makes the most sense just like Kaepernick would have for us. We have a team in place to really make a run for a Superbowl. He has already stated that he'll stand for the national anthem to draw less attention to himself and not the team.
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That's a fair argument that Kaep knows Romans system and is familiar with it, but it's also a very fair argument to say that it might be why we are truly staying away from Kaep and Roman may have better insight than anyone on a forum...
 
Purple&Black#20 said:
No this comment makes zero sense. QB right now....yes! What are preseason games for? Chemistry, timing etc. Why wouldn't you sign him now so he can play in the last two preseason games. That too makes no sense.
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wut? The Ravens don't need a QB. Period. They have three on the roster now and will be cutting one prior to starting the season.
 
Tank said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was you that brought up the analogy.
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I compared them because the neo-Nazis are doing something far worse and the conservative response that I've seen is to say, "BLM and Kaep protested, so this is no big deal."

I never once equated them.
 
ZonaRaven said:
For me, I've never considered putting Kaep's protest and the neo-Nazi's protest in the same thought. One is innocent as you've mentioned and the other (neo-Nazi) is so utterly absurd and stupid that I cannot comprehend comparing the two. In terms of a response, yes it is a double standard if you're drawing comparisons/parallels.
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At this point, I do think the Ravens need a much better back up than Mallett, but I think that's an issue to approach if Joe gets injured. I don't see Kaep getting signed anytime soon, so I'm going to have to think he'd be available if Joe ever got injured.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
At this point, I do think the Ravens need a much better back up than Mallett, but I think that's an issue to approach if Joe gets injured. I don't see Kaep getting signed anytime soon, so I'm going to have to think he'd be available if Joe ever got injured.
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Agreed on all points. Mallett is less than inspiring, even if he does play "winning football."
 
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