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Article: Crap Speculation. Kap to the RAVENS

Serrell Tuggs said:
Doesn't that just mean you have a good back up QB? Which is a better problem to have than Mallett being so terrible that, no matter how badly Flacco might play, no one would call for him to start.
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Purple&Black#20 said:
Kaep would not be a distraction but competition. Yes, the moment he signs it's going to be news and headlines. All kaep will need to do is hold that first press conference to talk about that issue and that's it. Any other press conferences after will be strictly football! Kaep takes better care of the ball and adds another element (legs) to the position. Flacco has thrown at least 10 int every year since he's entered the NFL. With the Ravens expecting there defense to be top 3 this season....we can win with Kaep. Mallet is awful and Flacco will be a sack away for being out the remainder of the season.
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If people are willing to protest in honor of a player simply not being signed and we end up signing him, think about what the protests become if they believe he should start. If we sign him, and we still might, the perception among the self righteous protesters is that they played a major part in the justice of him getting signed. Then when Flacco shows any sign of struggling or has a bad game, the precedence is already set for future protests that it's unjust he isn't starting.

I don't think Kaep himself would be the distraction as it's documented the Niners locker room loved him, I think the media does it for him. When it comes down to it, the media is likely more of a reason for him not being signed than anything to do with anything hes done or not done.
 
ZonaRaven said:
If people are willing to protest in honor of a player simply not being signed and we end up signing him, think about what the protests become if they believe he should start. If we sign him, and we still might, the perception among the self righteous protesters is that they played a major part in the justice of him getting signed. Then when Flacco shows any sign of struggling or has a bad game, the precedence is already set for future protests that it's unjust he isn't starting.

I don't think Kaep himself would be the distraction as it's documented the Niners locker room loved him, I think the media does it for him. When it comes down to it, the media is likely more of a reason for him not being signed than anything to do with anything hes done or not done.
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He hasn't done anything wrong but spoke up for some individuals that can't no longer speak for themselves. The media is an excuse for owners. If we had already signed Kaepernick it would of watered down some by now because of other news. Elliott 6 game suspension would of awarded some attention. And that horrible invent that took place in Virginia that cost the life of 3 Americans. That's a real problem but we continue to talk about a man disrespecting the flag after he explained what he was doing and why. I'll take what he did over that any day! When Flacco struggles and he does every year. Stop holding his hand, he needs to play better! I wish Tyrod Taylor was still our backup. Flacco makes more money a year than Brady, Big Ben, Rivers and still hasn't made the pro-bowl. Do the math, sick of losing!!!
 
Tank said:
I'm not sure how Mallet is being judged as being "terrible". Just how many regular season NFL games has he played? I'm not saying he doesn't suck, but I am saying that there's hardly been an ample time period,to tell one way or the other.
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His confidence is gone! His ball placement is awful. I believed in him last year but he's not looking like that guy anymore.
 
As I've stated, me not wanting Kaep is first and foremost a football decision. If Flacco isn't our QB, then our season is lost regardless of who is our QB from the pool of available candidates and Mallett. For that reason, it is a better long term decision for us to not sign Kaep who might win us enough games for us to miss out on a top talent.

Tyrod isn't likely to see the year through as the starter in Buffalo, I would hardly want him in Flacco's place. When he proves anything in the NFL, then I'd consider it.
 
ZonaRaven said:
As I've stated, me not wanting Kaep is first and foremost a football decision. If Flacco isn't our QB, then our season is lost regardless of who is our QB from the pool of available candidates and Mallett. For that reason, it is a better long term decision for us to not sign Kaep who might win us enough games for us to miss out on a top talent.

Tyrod isn't likely to see the year through as the starter in Buffalo, I would hardly want him in Flacco's place. When he proves anything in the NFL, then I'd consider it.
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Do you really think Ozzie Newsome and John Harbaugh are concerned with next year draft at this point? I honestly highly doubt they are and the main focus this year should be winning games. This is not a season where The Ravens can afford to tank or think well if we sign Kaep due to Joe Flacco missing some games this regular season or the entire season we going miss out on some top talent in 2018 draft. Unless Kaep is too expensive then he obviously is a upgrade at backup quarterback. I don't think Kaep is some elite quarterback but I trust Greg Roman and Marty M to get him possibly back to how he played in 2012-13 and etc . The Ravens probably may have the best defense in the league this season which may mean all they would need is a game manager at the quarterback position with a solid rushing attack like what The Broncos had in 2015.

I don't really expect Joe Flacco to miss any games this year but it's obvious that they need more out their quarterbacks right now while he's out. Maybe Josh Woodrum is the guy or maybe Ryan Mallet steps up his game and be the guy but we shall see. I honestly trust Kaep more to handle the offense and etc if Flacco had to miss the entire season or just plenty of games but that's just me. I'm aware The Ravens need more help on the offensive line and maybe even help at inside linebacker but the back quarterback situation right now isn't something I expect them to be comfortable with at the moment. If John Harbaugh had major faith in Ryan Mallet then Colin Kapernick wouldn't have been bought up at all .
 
The thing that bothers me the most about this situation is that Colin Kaepernick protests peacefully and intends no harm to anyone. He does it quietly and peacefully and everyone loses their mind.

In Charlottesville, neo-Nazis can protest with loaded weapons and tiki torches and people are like, "Hey, they're just exercising their right to protest."

Uh... Do we not see the double standard here?

Edit: The one person I knew would use the disagree feature did in fact use it. No surprise there.
 
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29BmoreBird22 said:
Really, someone, please, explain the difference to me.
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You're right, the right to free speech is the right to free speech. Seems to me though you are just using the opinions of "people" that fit your agenda. I think you know there are just as many, if not more "people" that are appalled by the VA protests.

Do you think any NFL team would hire the guy that organized the Charlottesville protests as their events coordinator?
 
Tank said:
You're right, the right to free speech is the right to free speech. Seems to me though you are just using the opinions of "people" that fit your agenda. I think you know there are just as many, if not more "people" that are appalled by the VA protests.

Do you think any NFL team would hire the guy that organized the Charlottesville protests as their events coordinator?
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The right to free speech has it's limitations and this would certainly be one of those limitations.

I would be hard pressed to find people who are appalled because there's a massive thread on Kaep and his protests on this site, but I post about Charlottesville in the Political Thread, which many people here frequent, and it gets two replies, one from someone who doesn't even live in the US. I turn on FB and people are like, "Well, if Kaep can protest, so can these people." They're outraged at Kaep protesting, but then have no problem with a neo-Nazi protesting because Kaep protested, which they were upset about. It makes no sense.
 
Willbacker said:
The difference is one went thru the proper channels to stage a protest while the other jammed it right in the NFL's face.
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No, no... Kaep never jammed it in the face of the NFL. He literally kneeled and the media took over that one. Can't blame Kaep for that.

And we're not seeing the issue here when Kaep is protesting police brutality (which happens in the US), but neo-Nazis are protesting for white supremacy and we have a bigger issue with Kaep because the media made a story of it?
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
Really, someone, please, explain the difference to me.
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It's a double standard certainly.
The distinction however may reside not in the expression of free speech but in the forum of expression.

The NFL serves as a release, if only for a few hours from having to consider any social ills or political motivation.
The intrude on what we perceive as "our time" away from....stuff...is what is found irksome.
 
Edgar said:
It's a double standard certainly.
The distinction however may reside not in the expression of free speech but in the forum of expression.

The NFL serves as a release, if only for a few hours from having to consider any social ills or political motivation.
The intrude on what we perceive as "our time" away from....stuff...is what is found irksome.
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So, do we have an issue with Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bennett, Malcolm Jenkins, Derrick Carr, and Chris Long, too?
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
So, do we have an issue with Marshawn Lynch, Michael Bennett, Malcolm Jenkins, Derrick Carr, and Chris Long, too?
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I'm unaware of what it is they are protesting. But speaking generally I would say yes, probably. And for the reason stated previously.
 
Edgar said:
I'm unaware of what it is they are protesting. But speaking generally I would say yes, probably. And for the reason stated previously.
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They are protesting the exact same thing that Kaep is, except you're unaware that they're protesting (or have been for just as long as Kaep), but we have no issue with it.
 
29BmoreBird22 said:
They are protesting the exact same thing that Kaep is, except you're unaware that they're protesting (or have been for just as long as Kaep), but we have no issue with it.
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You may have my offering slightly tangled. I don't begrudge Kaepernick a job. I have no problem with him here, in fact.
I'm simply making effort to explain what I'm guessing might be folks general aversion to the political.

I can't speak as to why there is no discomfort expressed in regards to the other players mentioned but I would guess the sentiment remains the same.
 
Edgar said:
You may have my offering slightly tangled. I don't begrudge Kaepernick a job. I have no problem with him here, in fact.
I'm simply making effort to explain what I'm guessing might be folks general aversion to the political.

I can't speak as to why there is no discomfort expressed in regards to the other players mentioned but I would guess the sentiment remains the same.
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I don't think people feel ill will toward them because when Kaepernick protested, we sure as hell knew about it. Like, are we upset that he voiced it and we don't like that players are exercising first amendment rights or they can do it so long as they never make a peep about it? Kaep just the sacrificial lamb?

I'm trying to figure out why there's such an outrage at Kaep, but little outrage over the Charlottesville protests, relatively speaking. I was actually really shocked and appalled to find most people okay with the Charlottesville protests simply due to the fact that Kaep and BLM protests happen.
 
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