QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Reich is very good. He'd probably be a one and done OC like Kubiak before he gets another HC job, but it would be a good year.
He's also extremely religious from what I've seen, which will appeal to Harbaugh.
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He's also extremely religious from what I've seen, which will appeal to Harbaugh.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Aside from the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, the presser had quite a few other positives.
We discovered that Harbaugh and DeCosta aren't stupid. They know that Lamar is by far the best route to success and they really want to keep him around. That's great news.
Unlike a few fans, they aren't actually dumb enough to think a few picks and some cap space is a better option than a top QB. I was worried for a second, with some of the negative stories that were going around, that the Ravens might have been briefing against Lamar to prepare the fanbase for a trade.
They also seem to have seen the light regarding the importance of the WR position. There was no talk of "we're a running team", "we're a tight end -centric offense." They explicity made upgrading the WR room a key part of the off-season.
In fact, I think they might have made it too obvious that the first pick is going to be a WR - teams might jump us for the last one- but on the other hand, GMs aren't stupid, they already knew the Ravens needed to go WR in the 1st before EDC ever opened his mouth.
We discovered that Harbaugh and DeCosta aren't stupid. They know that Lamar is by far the best route to success and they really want to keep him around. That's great news.
Unlike a few fans, they aren't actually dumb enough to think a few picks and some cap space is a better option than a top QB. I was worried for a second, with some of the negative stories that were going around, that the Ravens might have been briefing against Lamar to prepare the fanbase for a trade.
They also seem to have seen the light regarding the importance of the WR position. There was no talk of "we're a running team", "we're a tight end -centric offense." They explicity made upgrading the WR room a key part of the off-season.
In fact, I think they might have made it too obvious that the first pick is going to be a WR - teams might jump us for the last one- but on the other hand, GMs aren't stupid, they already knew the Ravens needed to go WR in the 1st before EDC ever opened his mouth.
Thezone27
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I am really glad that Harbaugh is willing to admit his mistakes and try to fix them. That is something very valuable in a coach.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
Sounds like Spencer Schultz enjoyed sneering at people.
However I think most of us understand that, while In one sense Romanball was technically "pro style," it wasn't an offensive system typically used in professional football, which is what people, maybe including Lamar, are meaning when contrasting "pro-style" with Romanball. In terms of play design it was more of an academy style offense.
Designed QB runs are very much part of NFL offenses now, incompetent passing games are not.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Like rossi pointed out, Harbaugh is usually a lot more open during the off season. That not wanting to rebuild comment was big.
As far as the draft just last year they let damn near EVERY position we need fall to us. Not just the position, but consensus TOP picks in the draft. I'm pretty confident we'll be, especially with all the wrs taken last year by many of these teams. Looking at the current order there are 7 or 8 picks ahead who I think would consider taking a WR and 2 of those picks belong to the same team. We should be fine at the spot we are, but I'm fine with a wr, CB or trading down, for once.
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he actually ran some spread concepts as well
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Hard to make adjustments with 4 seconds left on the play clock
I think he is gone, unless we can get a good team friendly deal with him. I think he will be better next season, being another year removed from injury and could be good no matter what team he is on.
They did kind of concur that Powers is likely gone, so I believe we will be keeping Zeitler and plugging Cleveland into left guard.
Thezone27
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Sad but true. Hope we get another standout to pair with Humphrey this draft/
lamar's retweeting of that tweet was far more likely about media perception of him than a repudiation of Roman's offence as not "pro-style"
just because you didn't like Roman's offence doesn't mean it's correct to say it's not pro-style
incompetent passing games are everywhere in the NFL - much of the reason for that, being poor QB play or poor receiving groups... funnily enough, both of those were here to finish the season
so much of what people claimed were poor passing concepts were receivers fucking up
many poor play-calls were a backup QB not reading the field well
there are legitimate ways to criticise Roman but the idea that he cant design passing plays is just not correct
also an annoying trope
lamar spent a ridiculous amount of time at the line making adjustments and checking into completely different playcalls because of the long playcalls
with lamar at the helm, the only game where we consistently struggled to get to the line in 2022 was the jets game on opening weekend... most of the other games where we struggled to get to the line consistently (other than one or two notable frustrating isolated occasions) were with backup QBs
part of the reason the playcalls were so long with Lamar was that Roman was calling 2 whole plays into the huddle rather than 1 play and a designed check - that was to give lamar more ability to call what he was seeing on the field
Maybe, but I'm not sure he will get another opportunity with all the young up and comers coming up. Reich has only been a head coach once and that was by accident, with McDaniel backing out of his deal.
redrum52
Hall of Famer
You're not ruining my fun with facts. Roman gone. Lamar getting paid. Weapons will be brought in and I'm optimistic about the OC hire. Good day, sir.
And as @BoredMarine13 pointed out the chiefs did a damn Raindance before getting to the line with 17 seconds left before the ball was snapped. We will hopefully have more time to work with.
Potential candidates to replace Greg Roman as Ravens offensive coordinator
With uncertainty swirling around Lamar Jackson’s Ravens future, John Harbaugh will have to find a new play-caller for the first time since January 2019.
QtR Nevermore
Pro Bowler
If Lamar was using the term "pro style" to mean full field reads etc, and he was already doing all that under Roman. why would he even react to the comment at all? It seems like his "Thank You" was a way saying that he can succeed in a more pass heavy offense (ie. he was using Pro Style to mean a more typical NFL style).
If receivers repeatedly fuck up over 4 years, I'd say that was on coaching but I'll agree to disagree with you on Roman's (in)ability to design passing plays because it doesn't really matter anymore. He's gone and I'm happy.
he's aware of the common misconception in how he's perceived in media - that people commonly refer to him as a system QB and that there was already some media push, based on that perception of him, that they'd need someone from a non-pro-style offence to take the reigns
when in fact lamar has always been a pro-style QB in a pro-style offence
I just really want to start getting excited about OC interviews lol
just like we did about DC interviews (but even moreso)
just like we did about DC interviews (but even moreso)
UPennChem
Hall of Famer
Me TOO. I think Reich is the number one guy, but you'd have to weigh signing him vs someone you could get more years out of.
People were going crazy for Slowik in presser live chat yesterday? Do we believe in him or is that a Bienamy - Reid situation all over again?
i mean i think basically anyone we sign is potentially not gonna last long - either because they're a former HC going for another shot, or because they're a rising star and we're just a stepping stone on their way to becoming the new hot thing HC candidate
with Lamar at QB, a young coordinator or former HC coordinator would have to fall completely flat not to be getting HC buzz in the next year or 2
RaineV1
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I think with Slowik people just see he has some hand in the 49ers passing offense and people want that same system. But it does worry me that he isn't experience and might not be able to make an offense like Shanahan.
I know Reid tends to help his coaches take on more responsibility and sets them up for promotions so I would love to poach one of his guys. Or the Eagles QB coach, Brian Johnson. He has experience working with dual threat QBs, and has play calling experience (at the college level).