2025 NFL Draft Gameday Thread

[JoeyFlex5]

I've only watched 7 minutes of highlights so I'll take your word for it

He’s not a perfect prospect. There’s a lot of “the best safety in the draft” and “perfect fit for the ravens” and tons of hype around this pick, but it doesn’t mean he’s a guarantee. Great instincts, great play speed, elite ball skills, and physically he’s very natural in coverage all the movements come easy to him.

He does bite on things, he does trigger too aggressively downhill in instances where he should be backpedaling, essentially trusting his instincts to make a play but his read was wrong and now he gave up a big one.

He is very aggressive in pursuit, often looks panicked at the tackle point, I hope bigger/faster ball carriers don’t have him lunging and overextending.

These are really hard projections to make to the next level. Like he either gets better with these things and he’s incredible, or he doesn’t and he’s good in some points and a liability in others. And I guess worst case he tries to overcorrect things and looks like shit as a result.

I think worst case is we got a safety who’s quite good in zone, capable in man, makes some plays on the ball, and can take a handful of snaps at corner any given week if the situation calls for it.

 

[rossihunter2]

What do the draft nerds in here think about Norman-Lott?

explosive, bendy but not a good run defender right now and no proof he can hold up for a whole game's worth of snaps

i'd be excited if we picked him but i don't see him as being a fit

 

[rossihunter2]

Have to disagree on the angles. Think you see some moments but they're inconsistent. He has some real headscratchers on tape.

i think he has some highlights (technically lowlights) where he takes bad angles but he generally does

 

[JoeyFlex5]

i'd fully expect a big pushes for trenches guys
just not sure i see the OL that's gonna be available at 59

but DL and EDGe for sure

I know you don’t like him, but savaiinaea is likely gonna go round 2 and might be a guy we’re looking hard at.

 

[RavensMania]

I really think Orr will be our next head coach when the time comes

it's definitely possible. Obvously has a long way to go but he's definitely being groomed.

 

[rossihunter2]

I'm hoping they take Saviinaea, Ratledge or Mbow at 59, or Frazier or Fairchild at 91 - which almost guarantees they won't pick a guard at all tonight.

Plenty of DTs and Edges I like too, which probably means they'll take a corner and an ILB.

im not a fan of savaiinaea, ratledge or fairchild on day 2 - mbow would be a great option and id be ok with frazier depending on how th eboard felt

but ive got a ton of DTs i'd still happily take in the top 100

 

[rossihunter2]

He’s not a perfect prospect. There’s a lot of “the best safety in the draft” and “perfect fit for the ravens” and tons of hype around this pick, but it doesn’t mean he’s a guarantee. Great instincts, great play speed, elite ball skills, and physically he’s very natural in coverage all the movements come easy to him.

He does bite on things, he does trigger too aggressively downhill in instances where he should be backpedaling, essentially trusting his instincts to make a play but his read was wrong and now he gave up a big one.

He is very aggressive in pursuit, often looks panicked at the tackle point, I hope bigger/faster ball carriers don’t have him lunging and overextending.

These are really hard projections to make to the next level. Like he either gets better with these things and he’s incredible, or he doesn’t and he’s good in some points and a liability in others. And I guess worst case he tries to overcorrect things and looks like shit as a result.

I think worst case is we got a safety who’s quite good in zone, capable in man, makes some plays on the ball, and can take a handful of snaps at corner any given week if the situation calls for it.

we've seen it in the past that safeties don't always instantly translate to the pros and take some time to acclimatise to the speed of the game and the new film study and offensive schemes

that said, Starks is someone who projects to impact early even as a rookie in a pretty complicated and multiple defensive scheme

the tackling stuff is overblown - there's highlights of him missing tackles because he's always around the ball - you can't make every play - there's also a ton of film of him taking good angles and being a consistent and good tackler

im not worried about his trigger, my one coverage worry is occasionally he's too flat-footed in off coverage trying to sit on the break and opens himself up to getting beat deep when he's in man off double moves - that stuff is fixable, especially with the way he studies and interprets the game and with his instincts in coverage generally

 

[rossihunter2]

I know you don’t like him, but savaiinaea is likely gonna go round 2 and might be a guy we’re looking hard at.

he probably will
but i hope that it's well before the ravens so that a better player falls to us
i don't rate him at all

 

[allblackraven]

explosive, bendy but not a good run defender right now and no proof he can hold up for a whole game's worth of snaps

i'd be excited if we picked him but i don't see him as being a fit

I read somewhere a big red flag was put on his knee at the combine - teams think the issue might be chronic.

 

[rossihunter2]

I read somewhere a big red flag was put on his knee at the combine - teams think the issue might be chronic.

would explain why he never played a full complement of snaps in college - would certainly drop him out of day 2 and late into day 3 if that's true

 

[JAAM]

lol fanbase literally went from "put Dean Pees in there, he ain't ready" to "HC in waiting", in, what, six months? Good times.

I remember that lol. As much as Orr’s growing pains were annoying me, I never wanted Pees in there lol

 

[Simba]

i think he has some highlights (technically lowlights) where he takes bad angles but he generally does

Oh yeah I don't disagree. It's more of an inconsistency thing than a full fledged problem. Think it'll all come down to discipline, because it felt like when he bit on something is often the time he recovered terribly and took those horrid angles.

 

[redrum52]

Any idea what were looking at today? I'd assume DL or OL

 

[Simba]

Any idea what were looking at today? I'd assume DL or OL

They're hoping that it works out that the next 2-3 picks are all in the trenches

 

[Tank]

Many prayers for Derick Harmon and his family. What is supposed to be the happiest night of your life, getting drafted in the first round of the NFL, damped by your mom passing away. What a kick in the teeth for that young man.

Not that it lessens his sadness, but sounds like it wasn't unexpected, she had been very ill for many years.

"Harmon outlined to ESPN ahead of the 2025 NFL Draft that Saine frequently underwent brain surgeries during his youth. She had eight in total and suffered a stroke that left her paralyzed on her left side while Harmon was playing at Michigan State."

Derrick Harmon's mother dies shortly after Steelers select son in 2025 NFL Draft

The Steelers selected Derrick Harmon 21st overall in the 2025 NFL Draft. The moment was 'bittersweet' for him, as his mother was on life support.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Tank]

lol fanbase literally went from "put Dean Pees in there, he ain't ready" to "HC in waiting", in, what, six months? Good times.

No question. Many here found that promoting Orr was just another Harbaugh blunder and through the first few weeks continually bashed both.

 

[JAAM]

Trade up for Don Ez cowards!!!!!!!

 

[RaineV1]

Well, so much for trying to get that LB.

 

[rossihunter2]

there goes the only LB worthy of a R2 pick
gone in the first pick of R2

 

[rossihunter2]

need a run on offensive weapons and skill positions this round