Key was a serving as a Lieutenant and lost to the Colonial Marines in the War of 1812.
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Willbacker
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Hmmmm. Cant find no info on that and as I remember the song was written in 1812 at Ft McHenry and we drove the British back. Where did this fight take place at? I am interested. If this happened then there is reason that it is in the song since these guys were traitors.
https://www.nps.gov/fomc/learn/historyculture/francis-scott-key.htm
He served for Captain George Peter's Georgetown Light Field Artillery.
Those guys aren't really traitors. It was blacks who were promised their freedom by the Britts if they fought against America.
Willbacker
Ravens Ring of Honor
In FSK's eyes they were traitors. They were killing American soldiers. So it may not be racial since he's talking about the enemy.
I don't think he viewed them as traitors; he viewed blacks as flat out inferior to whites.
JO_75
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Wasn't sure where to put this but considering what's going on right now, I'll put it here. So The Las Vegas Police released body came footage of the incident with Seahawks DE Michael Bennett. Bennett claimed the police used excessive force and said he was signaled out for being black.
Good old TMZ has got the footage from the police body cam from that night, and Bennett's accusations and all the things he said about the cops went down the drain. The victim card again, instead of manning up to what he did and should have never ran from the police, which is 1000% suspicious to all cops.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/29/michael-bennett-cops-to-show-body-cam-footage/
Good old TMZ has got the footage from the police body cam from that night, and Bennett's accusations and all the things he said about the cops went down the drain. The victim card again, instead of manning up to what he did and should have never ran from the police, which is 1000% suspicious to all cops.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/09/29/michael-bennett-cops-to-show-body-cam-footage/
cobrajet
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I actually hate having my service weapon in my hand and it is a rare occasion for me to ever draw it. I refuse to search a place for a suspect with it out. I want my hands free if someone jumps out and if they have a gun then I am either going to have to try and grab for it or turn and head for cover very quickly.
I really hate combat/martial arts training, I have no memory to learn choreographed moves, just like I can't learn how to dance. I just have to do what comes naturallly to me in a fight. One time this young guy was built like a linebacker and he figured he would fight me outside of a club and since I can't back down, the fight was on. I was able to put him in a choke hold and I held on for dear life until backup finally arrived. I really hurt his neck and when we got to the hospital, I told him I felt bad I hurt him. He said to me it's cool don't be sorry dude, you did what you had to do, I never lost a fight before and I really took you for granted since I am bigger than you. It was refreshing that he was so honest about the incident and understood that it was nothing personal. I hope if I ever get someone on top of me and he is working me over, I can lock him in close and pull a Royce Gracie until help arrives. One of my worst injuries was helping another officer in a fight and getting jumped from behind by the fighter's buddy and falling face first on the sidewalk, splitting my forehead open. I had blood pouring down my face and went home a little early that night after getting patched up.
We had training on these straight batons that they issued, when they took our espantoons away. They called them Koga sticks and they were longer then the espantoon. A lot of officers hated them because you couldn't personalize them or twirl them. They felt our tradition was being taken away, but I actually liked them and the training they gave us with them. They ended up going back to the espantoon and that training is no longer offered, but I still prefer that straight baton.
cobrajet
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Wow I was curious if an NFL owner could actually do what the president said and terminate a player for not standing for the national anthem. It looks like they actually could, according to the law. I thought for sure it would violate some civil right, but apparently not. https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/9/25/16360580/nfl-donald-trump-national-anthem-protest
No, it's a private sector, so they can fire them, but I'd be shocked to see that be the case.
So, does anyone know why Kaep decided to kneel after sitting? A former Green Beret.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...aepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/amp/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...aepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/amp/
cobrajet
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Me too, it would make no sense because they would still have to pay the player according to his contract and I can't imagine it would sit well with the other players. Owners like to be liked by the players, why own a team that hates you?
Tank
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That statistic is a bit misleading. While of course there are many ways to tilt statistics to support an argument, this article seems to do a pretty decent job of looking at the stats in an unbiased way.
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime
The Raven
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That's a brilliant perspective. Hadn't even really thought of it that way.
cobrajet
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I am just playing devil's advocate. I don't think kneeling is a big deal. I think it is more about tradition and what you are taught. In England you are taught from early age that you bow and kneel to the Queen. In America, you are taught from an early age that when the National Anthem is played, you stop what you are doing, get up from your seat, face the flag, take your hat off if you are wearing one, and put your right hand over your heart. If you are wearing a military uniform, a police uniform, a Salvation Army uniform, or a Boy Scout uniform then you come to attention and salute the flag. I remember as a young kid my neighbor took me to an Orioles game and this white couple, who were Boston Red Sox fans were talking and did not do what I just described when the national anthem was played. My neighbor got on them so bad this couple ended up leaving. It is a big deal if you don't follow tradition for many people in America, just like if I went to England in my police uniform and decided to show respect to the Queen by coming to full attention and saluting her instead of kneeling. It makes a difference to those traditionalists, even if they support equal treatment for minorities, and it upsets them. I am sure these tradionalists will be upset that players are standing and linking arms instead of putting their hands over their heart. These traditionalists are the one's that got a rap on their noggins by their father, if they did not shut up, stand up, take off a hat, or put a hand over their heart as a child. Women have equal rights, but to this day, I will wait and hold the door for a female even if she is 45 seconds behind me, because that is how I was raised. It matters to many people.
Willbacker
Ravens Ring of Honor
Trust me the liberal media will not talk about this. It doesn't fit their narrative. Pretty much all the violence that occurs from cops is that the suspects don't do as their asked to do.
cobrajet
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When it comes to first amendment rights, maybe it is a good thing that the citizens of this great nation are free enough to even burn our flag, but that does not change the fact that a Marine that lost his buddy in combat or that hero's wife, who was given the flag draped over his coffin can help getting their feelings hurt by it. For me, showing respect makes all the difference in the world. It was how I was raised and it is drummed into me very deep. I just can't turn off those feelings at this point in my life when I see someone burning the American flag. I am trying to take a step back and understand it better, but it is not easy. Burning the flag is a big one for me, as that flag was draped over the coffins of my fallen police officer friends and I stood in reverence at their funeral. I believe, out of respect, sometimes in life "you just don't go there." These jerk neo-nazi's may have the right under the first amendment to say certain racist words, but that don't make it right. It is disrespectful and if they were decent citizens, they would never "go there."
cobrajet
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Those Westboro Baptist members that protest at military funerals are beyond disrespectful.
Tank
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I think this post I made Monday may answer your question. While it may not account for all of the outrage the precedent that was set surely affects the opinions of many.
So, at risk of getting into a very long discussion...
In the 50's and 60's, blacks were essentially only allowed to rent in ghettos that were very close together and clumped. Extremely high density, extremely high population totals, very little space.
Even now, I would say very large, very dense cities tend to be disproportionately black. That's a history lesson for another day, but in any case...
These areas are vastly easier to police due to the closeness and the proximity of all the people. I would venture to say that if we looked at the whites crime rates in the inner city vs the suburbs, the crime rates for white people would be vastly higher for the inner city. Similarly, if you could find a predominately black suburbs, I bet the crime rate is vastly lower than the inner city.
Living in a large city just isn't favorable to anyone, in my opinion.
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