End of the Bar Does Not Care, John Harbaugh

[OURavensFan]

This had me thinking who do we consider his coaching tree and besides Mike who's had success

Jim?

 

[JoeyFlex5]

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Macdonald coaching tree

Seems Macdonald is the only person who knows how to call his defense.

He’s good at calling defense but fucking great at job security

 

[D1City55]

Even if McDonald was still here, what could he do with this pass rush? The front four is probably the worst in the league. Not a single guy there can consistently win 1v1s and 4 man rushes are completely unreliable. The defense as a whole was poorly constructed with little improvements.

 

[allblackraven]

again just once again proving that macdonald's superpower is not just the scheme but the way he teaches it to his players to make it simultaneously simple and complex

pure coaching

Why would we want a coach like that when we can teach players to work hard, whatever they (he) mean by that and put the rest in His hands? He is never wrong, he will reward.

 

[rossihunter2]

Even if McDonald was still here, what could he do with this pass rush? The front four is probably the worst in the league. Not a single guy there can consistently win 1v1s and 4 man rushes are completely unreliable. The defense as a whole was poorly constructed with little improvements.

macdonald was the guy who got KVN and Clowney both into double digit sacks in the same season

 

[allblackraven]

macdonald was the guy who got KVN and Clowney both into double digit sacks in the same season

Plus Madubuike 13

 

[Baltimorican]

Precisely this. In hindsight it's somewhat predictable, but this team effectively just rolled out the same team it put out last year and said "OK we'll just do better". And not surprisingly, others got better, which means we get worse. Honestly the Ravens and Lions are basically in that exact same spot... two teams that looked dominant last year, underachieved, then just thought they could run it back with the same group of players and schemes and everything would be fine.

I think a big part of the not getting better was the "ascending" players on offense, namely Likely, Bateman and Rosengarten either took a step back or fell off a cliff. Ditto the guards who were supposed to improve to league average. Going forward the core is Lamar, Zay and Linderbaum IF you re-sign him. Nobody else above average or ascending.

On defense it was really just losing Beeks, they rebounded to ok but could never get to really good without him. But the core for a terrific defense next year is there IF Beeks comes back. Beeks, T-Jones, Green, Ro, Teddeye, Starks, Hamilton, Wiggins and I'll even throw Robinson on there.

 

[Florida Raven Fan]

crazy the hate and rumors of being traded this guy is getting while you're barely hearing anything on Harbaugh. I get it though, Lamar being the storyline gets more clicks.

I just don't see how we start next season with both Lamar and Harbaugh. One of them has to go and we know the FO will be crazy to let Lamar go.

 

[52520Andrew]

macdonald was the guy who got KVN and Clowney both into double digit sacks in the same season

KVN got double digits last year too though as did Oweh, like he helped but he had a lot more to work with than we do now. We don’t have anyone the opposing offense has to account for.

 

[redrum52]

 

[ravenslord]

This win makes Harbs look bad. Where was Henry against Patriots in 4th quarter ?

 

[allblackraven]

When the seat got hot, thinks he'll fool SB.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

Ayo whatsup playboy why you got that suit on

 

[drjohnnyfever]

I just have to make an observation watching the Bronco's game and from memory. I love seeing Sean Payton with a play calling sheet in his hand. I love seeing him involved in the play to play operation of, at least, the OFF rather than just a cheer leader and sideline lawyer with the refs. I can't stand that our guy, maybe not today, is often caught out asking into his headset, "What do you see?" or what have you.

Lol! I just said the same thing a few weeks ago!

 

[Tank]

L

 

[redrum52]

Listening to checkthemic and they brought up Tomlins record in 1 score games. He's one of the best in close games. So I thought, hmmm, wonder what John's record would look like and found this.

 

[allblackraven]

Listening to checkthemic and they brought up Tomlins record in 1 score games. He's one of the best in close games. So I thought, hmmm, wonder what John's record would look like and found this.

Wow. Actually loser coach.

 

[rossihunter2]

Wow. Actually loser coach.

as much as im over harbs
you could also interpret those stats as him having kept poor teams competitive as much as you can interpret them as having good teams lose games they shouldn't or being unclutch

 

[UPennChem]

as much as im over harbs
you could also interpret those stats as him having kept poor teams competitive as much as you can interpret them as having good teams lose games they shouldn't or being unclutch

But that's who he is. Both of those things. Hes good a keeping floor high and pretty dang bad at getting to the ceiling.

Even with high end rosters

 

[redrum52]

as much as im over harbs
you could also interpret those stats as him having kept poor teams competitive as much as you can interpret them as having good teams lose games they shouldn't or being unclutch

When's the last time you were confident we'd win in a close game?