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This game is definitely on the O but the D played terrible. We still easily give up 3rd and longs and that has been our problem for years now. Steelers easily converted a 3rd and 18. Pees sucks. We invested all this money on the D and it is not showing.
 
This game is definitely on the O but the D played terrible. We still easily give up 3rd and longs and that has been our problem for years now. Steelers easily converted a 3rd and 18. Pees sucks. We invested all this money on the D and it is not showing.

I wouldn't say that the D played terrible, but we did get killed in the run game. For all of the "depth" on our D-line, we're now 0-2 without Brandon Williams.

Our secondary held up fairly well; Brown was held in check most of the day and we didn't give up too many big plays down the field. Also, Marlon Humphrey continues to impress and should be starting at some point this season. He's looking like a legit shut-down corner.
 
We threw the ball damn near 50 times and scored 9 points. If you're blaming the defense you need to re-watch the game. Joe Flacco and the offensive line lost us this game, and Joe shares a greater part of that burden.
No one is blaming the defense, but that doesn't change the fact they were dogshit
 
26 points allowed with three turnovers and no offensive momentum whatsoever is not dogshit. Few defenses would fare better than that.
Bell had almost 200 yds from scrimmage.

Their back up averaged 6.5 ypc

Ben was sacked once.

He also left two clear tds on the field. Missing brown being open and the big miss to bryant deep

I still dont think the int should have stood.

They gave up a 10min drive to start the game and put themselves immediately on the back foot.
 
Bell had almost 200 yds from scrimmage.

Their back up averaged 6.5 ypc

Ben was sacked once.

He also left two clear tds on the field. Missing brown being open and the big miss to bryant deep

I still dont think the int should have stood.

They gave up a 10min drive to start the game and put themselves immediately on the back foot.
Well, to be fair, 17 of the Steelers points (possibly 16 because I didn't check on the 2 point conversion) came from the ball starting at Baltimore 48, 49, and 28.
 
Eric Weddle and Tony Jefferson have had a disappointing start to the season. They haven't been bad but we have all expected big things from that duo.
 
If we lose to EJ Manuel the Pees detractors are going to get their wish eventually. I find a lot of the reasons why they don't like him to be flawed. But ultimately, I would rather have a guy like Pagano coaching the defense.

I still think Harbaugh is fired after this season and Pees goes with him too. Harbaugh is a good coach and will be hired elsewhere but I think his time here is up. All good things must come to an end.
 
26 points allowed with three turnovers and no offensive momentum whatsoever is not dogshit. Few defenses would fare better than that.
I agree given that the Steelers offense is a well oiled machine.

I think a big problem other than us losing B. Williams is other than Suggs our other edge rushers aren't exactly adept to setting the edge on a run. Both Williams and Bowser can rush the passer well, but neither looks to be a good run defender off the edge.. Yet. They're young. Wouldn't be surprise if one of the two eventually becomes adept(I think it'll be Williams. A glance at the Alabama tape suggests he has some skill-set.

Eric Weddle and Tony Jefferson have had a disappointing start to the season. They haven't been bad but we have all expected big things from that duo.
I've noticed that too. The Njoku touchdown vs. the Browns was on Jefferson on second observation of the tape. Jefferson I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt. He's new, let him acclimate. Not sure what's up with Weddle and if you look at him again it's not an athletic decline.

I think both rebound eventually.

Yeah I'm not hitting the panic button. Pees might be fired soon, but ultimately, this fanbase is so spoiled that they don't realize that we could have it so much worse.
 
I agree given that the Steelers offense is a well oiled machine.

I think a big problem other than us losing B. Williams is other than Suggs our other edge rushers aren't exactly adept to setting the edge on a run. Both Williams and Bowser can rush the passer well, but neither looks to be a good run defender off the edge.. Yet. They're young. Wouldn't be surprise if one of the two eventually becomes adept(I think it'll be Williams. A glance at the Alabama tape suggests he has some skill-set.


I've noticed that too. The Njoku touchdown vs. the Browns was on Jefferson on second observation of the tape. Jefferson I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt. He's new, let him acclimate. Not sure what's up with Weddle and if you look at him again it's not an athletic decline.

I think both rebound eventually.

Yeah I'm not hitting the panic button. Pees might be fired soon, but ultimately, this fanbase is so spoiled that they don't realize that we could have it so much worse.
The sad thing is Suggs was an abysmal part of the problem on Sunday.
 
If we lose to EJ Manuel the Pees detractors are going to get their wish eventually. I find a lot of the reasons why they don't like him to be flawed. But ultimately, I would rather have a guy like Pagano coaching the defense.

I still think Harbaugh is fired after this season and Pees goes with him too. Harbaugh is a good coach and will be hired elsewhere but I think his time here is up. All good things must come to an end.
Those good things came to an end few years back, apparently. We all got too comfy living off past successes.
The fall started when we drafted Elam in 2013. He was instrumental in a great franchise demise.
Elam and Art Brown.
Way to replace Ed and Ray.
 
Those good things came to an end few years back, apparently. We all got too comfy living off past successes.
The fall started when we drafted Elam in 2013. He was instrumental in a great franchise demise.
Elam and Art Brown.
Way to replace Ed and Ray.
We did eventually get CJ though. The drafting has been a lot better since 2013... Though 2015 looks like a dud. 2016 and 2017 look to be damn good.

I'm as mad at Ozzie as the next guy.. But his big picture plan has put is in a really good position for the next few years... Even with the bad cap room. Short term, yeah it looks bleak. I ain't worried for the long haul though. Literally, I expect us to go all in on offense this offseason. It's an obvious play, but sometimes that's the smart play. As much as some of you don't want to admit it, the defense has gotten better than it was last year talent wise. Pass rush looks a HELL of a lot better and frankly.. If we had Tavon Young I wouldn't want to throw against us at all. Humphrey also looks like the real deal and I think he supplants Carr soon.

Personally, I hope Pagano is fired and we bring him on as DC when Harbaugh goes somewhere else.

Or better yet. Hire Teryl Austin, and have him pick some offensive coordinator. Being a defensive minded team kind of suits the franchise and we've put ourselves in a really good position talent wise to have a dominant defense for the next half decade if we can stay healthy and get a few more solid players.

My dream scenario is that the saints fire Sean Payton the same time we fire Harbaugh, and then we go pick up Payton and sign Pagano to be the defensive coordinator. Payton would FINALLY have a guy who knows how to draft defensive players and has good defensive personel and if anyone can revive Joe's career: it's him. Or he'd be brilliant in helping develop a young QB as well if Flacco never gets better. Not to mention we'd also have a guy as a HC who has an eye for offensive talent and would be a draw some offensive talent in FA.

It's unlikely, but hey, dream scenario.

What I think happens is that we hire Teryl Austin. I have no idea who we'd keep at OC(I think Roman would stay. IDK. I just have a good feeling about him. The presence of bootlegs and whatnot is clearly from him as we haven't seen a lot of them over the past two years. Plus Roman's running scheme is working at Hurst and Skura are bad at Guard, which is baffling to me). But Austin makes a ton of sense imo. Familiar with the franchise, very good defensive mind. I also think that we'd be able to snag Ted Monachino back from Indianapolis and possibly sign Rob Chudzinski as an OC(let's be real.. These two aren't the problem with that organization. It's literally the Andrew Luck and TY Hilton show).
 
The issue I saw was that, without Brandon Williams demanding doubles in the middle, the Pittsburgh guards were free to double our DEs or go straight to the second level. I mean, Zadarius got a lot of shit but he was getting doubled a ton. That's why their off tackle game worked. They let their center deal with our NT 1 on 1 while doubling elsewhere. Brandon Williams changes that dynamic.
 
The issue I saw was that, without Brandon Williams demanding doubles in the middle, the Pittsburgh guards were free to double our DEs or go straight to the second level. I mean, Zadarius got a lot of shit but he was getting doubled a ton. That's why their off tackle game worked. They let their center deal with our NT 1 on 1 while doubling elsewhere. Brandon Williams changes that dynamic.
He does indeed and I'm with you in eating crow(can you pass the salt please? My crow is bland). That's why I'm hoping one of Wormley/Kaufausi develops into a dominant run defender to help the dynamic on the dline in addition to one of Judon/Bowser/Williams developing into a good edge setter themselves.

Again, we have the talent on the roster, it's just young. Give it some time. I know you're not the impatient one, but I ain't worried for the future even if the detractors (2-14 people) are right.
 
Bell had almost 200 yds from scrimmage.

Their back up averaged 6.5 ypc

Ben was sacked once.

He also left two clear tds on the field. Missing brown being open and the big miss to bryant deep

I still dont think the int should have stood.

They gave up a 10min drive to start the game and put themselves immediately on the back foot.


How many 3 and outs did the offense put up? how long do you think a defense can hold up when the offense constantly gives the ball back to the best RB in the league?
 
How many 3 and outs did the offense put up? how long do you think a defense can hold up when the offense constantly gives the ball back to the best RB in the league?
In first 2 games offense really held the ball for a long, long time, yet our D gave 4.5 yard per carry (with Williams in). Our defense isn't playing well. Takeouts in first two games have masked a lot of bad stuff, most notably defending the edge and allowing big plays in the secondary.
 
I agree given that the Steelers offense is a well oiled machine.

I think a big problem other than us losing B. Williams is other than Suggs our other edge rushers aren't exactly adept to setting the edge on a run. Both Williams and Bowser can rush the passer well, but neither looks to be a good run defender off the edge.. Yet. They're young. Wouldn't be surprise if one of the two eventually becomes adept(I think it'll be Williams. A glance at the Alabama tape suggests he has some skill-set.


I've noticed that too. The Njoku touchdown vs. the Browns was on Jefferson on second observation of the tape. Jefferson I'm gonna give the benefit of the doubt. He's new, let him acclimate. Not sure what's up with Weddle and if you look at him again it's not an athletic decline.

I think both rebound eventually.

Yeah I'm not hitting the panic button. Pees might be fired soon, but ultimately, this fanbase is so spoiled that they don't realize that we could have it so much worse.
That's what has encouraged me in terms of Weddle, doesn't seem like age has hit him yet just been off to a bad start, he's adjusting to a new role so I think the both of them will pick it up soon.
 
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