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The WR Thread

For some reason , EQ Brown doesn't get much attention . I've just begun to watch him myself and I can't help but notice that he was asked to block a ton . In other words it looks to me like he was underutilized quite a bit and that he suffered because the quarterback play was subpar .
He is open on tape quite often and simply isn't targeted .

I like what I see from him thus far very much . He has speed and some quickness and very strong hands to reach out and grab the ball . He is elusive enough to make people miss in space . From what I've seen so far I am reasonably certain that he will be a productive receiver in the NFL .

It's too early for me to figure out where he might go in the draft … I'm guessing he won't make it out of the second but that's just a guess
I agree. All in all be could be the most talented reciever in the draft. He so fluid in his movements and is much stronger than his frame would suggest (his dad was 2 time Mr.Universe so he gets his work outs lol)
 
I don't like St Brown and I've already said it several times. He has some talent but he can't beat press to save his life. All the catches he gets are against 10 yards cushions. I don't disagree with the above but once he has a DB in his hips pocket he can't get physical and box out. I've yet to see him high point as well.
 
I don't like St Brown and I've already said it several times. He has some talent but he can't beat press to save his life. All the catches he gets are against 10 yards cushions. I don't disagree with the above but once he has a DB in his hips pocket he can't get physical and box out. I've yet to see him high point as well.
Tbh big recievers seem to be trending in the wrong direction. If you cant run routes in the nfl your most likely doomed. Brown still has a lot of flaws and press is definetly one of them. Hes raw but so are the other 6'4 plus guys, its just a question of which has the most potential
 
St brown is more of an AJ green type tall receiver than a dez or Evans, he is a legitimate quality route runner, a supreme athlete with near elite speed, quickness, fluidity, and explosion, and that 6'4" frame is used to max efficiency, if he's got 1 step down the sideline then the qb has a MUCH bigger window than he would have with most receivers.

Height on a wr isn't always about boxing out, it's about making easier throws for the Qb. Brown is one of those guys. If he can develop a stutter step off the line and some swat moves he will be an elite deep threat and should also become a solid all around guy who runs a full route tree. He's not a jumpball guy, but he can get a step on the db and give the qb an easy drop in the bucket
 
Tbh big recievers seem to be trending in the wrong direction. If you cant run routes in the nfl your most likely doomed. Brown still has a lot of flaws and press is definetly one of them. Hes raw but so are the other 6'4 plus guys, its just a question of which has the most potential
Auden Tate without any questions.
 
St brown is more of an AJ green type tall receiver than a dez or Evans, he is a legitimate quality route runner, a supreme athlete with near elite speed, quickness, fluidity, and explosion, and that 6'4" frame is used to max efficiency, if he's got 1 step down the sideline then the qb has a MUCH bigger window than he would have with most receivers.

Height on a wr isn't always about boxing out, it's about making easier throws for the Qb. Brown is one of those guys. If he can develop a stutter step off the line and some swat moves he will be an elite deep threat and should also become a solid all around guy who runs a full route tree. He's not a jumpball guy, but he can get a step on the db and give the qb an easy drop in the bucket
Well if you're tall and you can't play physical that's a problem. I hear your point but St Brown has buildup speed and won't have the quick release needed to beat a corner at the LoS. Basically he's a taller and more sluggish Cedric Wilson.
 
Moore is worth keeping but he isn’t a number 2 type receiver and I dont think he ever will be - he’s a guy who’s a useful piece but his ceiling is probably a wr3 but in all honesty I’d feel nervous if he’s consistently playing anything more than wr4 snaps
Well to be honest I don’t think that Baltimore really has a w1-3 option like other teams do. I mean typically Joe locks in on one guy for the game (say 7 targets) throws around 10-12 checkdowns to whoever is within 5 yards, and maybe 6-8 throws to the other receivers. I think Moore is a tremendous play action wr. It seems like every catch he had was off play action, and it might be because his speed allows him to explode with a step advantage. I think he is way more of an efficient weapon than a starting Wr tbh. If he gets 4 targets a game, I like where that would go. I think his best sits around 400-500 yards, 4-5 tds and 30-40 catches.
 
I’m very done with falling in love with “big, fast, outside receivers” I would much prefer a tough or elusive great route runner. I don’t give a fuck about their 40 yard dash, you will never once get to run 40 yards without getting touched. Show me agility and ability to get open and I’m interested. For this reason, I can almost guarantee Christian Kirk and Calvin Ridley will be the best wrs out of this class. I’ve seen “st browns” 100 times and I refuse to buy it again.
 
Well if you're tall and you can't play physical that's a problem. I hear your point but St Brown has buildup speed and won't have the quick release needed to beat a corner at the LoS. Basically he's a taller and more sluggish Cedric Wilson.
Im not sure St. Brown isnt as physical as you say. Hes much stronger than his frame would suggest as i said before. I think its more a lack of technique to his game. Im not sure where you see him being sluggish, hes pretty fluid of an athlete, especially at 6'5
 
Im not sure St. Brown isnt as physical as you say. Hes much stronger than his frame would suggest as i said before. I think its more a lack of technique to his game. Im not sure where you see him being sluggish, hes pretty fluid of an athlete, especially at 6'5
Fluid yes. But not quick. As a route runner he is pretty smooth but like I said he isn't explosive at the line to put a CB on his heels. That might sound like nitpicking but in St Brown's case you've seen guys like MJ Stewart shut him down like that. You've seen him get taken out of the game easily, and the big issue is I don't think he can fix it.
 
Fluid yes. But not quick. As a route runner he is pretty smooth but like I said he isn't explosive at the line to put a CB on his heels. That might sound like nitpicking but in St Brown's case you've seen guys like MJ Stewart shut him down like that. You've seen him get taken out of the game easily, and the big issue is I don't think he can fix it.
Him being taken out of games also has to fo with the poor QB play and system Notre Dame runs
 
Ok so I just watched most of the realistic prospects available to us rounds 1 and 2, I still need a closer look at Cain and Tate, but as it stands right now I'm back on the Anthony miller round 2 bandwagon, I see no other way. Miller is still my #2, I saw more guys and talked myself out of miller for a bit, but a quick refresher just sealed th deal. Miller is the second best in the class and I don't think it's close, his freak catches, his separation, speed, intensity, explosive routes and jaw dropping body control and ball tracking, his ball attacking and tenacity, incredible YAC ability, I have big questions about every wr in the class except for Miller and Ridley, there is just no denying it in my eyes
 
Ok so I just watched most of the realistic prospects available to us rounds 1 and 2, I still need a closer look at Cain and Tate, but as it stands right now I'm back on the Anthony miller round 2 bandwagon, I see no other way. Miller is still my #2, I saw more guys and talked myself out of miller for a bit, but a quick refresher just sealed th deal. Miller is the second best in the class and I don't think it's close, his freak catches, his separation, speed, intensity, explosive routes and jaw dropping body control and ball tracking, his ball attacking and tenacity, incredible YAC ability, I have big questions about every wr in the class except for Miller and Ridley, there is just no denying it in my eyes
Ya miller and Ridley seem the best ready to comtribute guys, everyone else really needs work and will take time acclimating to the nfl. Millers only flaw is his size
 
Ya miller and Ridley seem the best ready to comtribute guys, everyone else really needs work and will take time acclimating to the nfl. Millers only flaw is his size
Millers size isn't a flaw, bet if he was 6'3" he wouldn't have as much fire and explosion. He's 5'11" but has a 5" chip on his shoulder. Not to mention that's a rock solid 5'11" he's standing at, my first thought of this kid was Steve smith and I'm stuck on that, it's like watching him suit up for Memphis.

Depending on where they land, Cain, Washington, Sutton and Kirk look ready ti contribute.
Not Washington... don't say that man, you're better than That.
 
Ok so I just watched most of the realistic prospects available to us rounds 1 and 2, I still need a closer look at Cain and Tate, but as it stands right now I'm back on the Anthony miller round 2 bandwagon, I see no other way. Miller is still my #2, I saw more guys and talked myself out of miller for a bit, but a quick refresher just sealed th deal. Miller is the second best in the class and I don't think it's close, his freak catches, his separation, speed, intensity, explosive routes and jaw dropping body control and ball tracking, his ball attacking and tenacity, incredible YAC ability, I have big questions about every wr in the class except for Miller and Ridley, there is just no denying it in my eyes
But, why would he be available in the middle of 2nd?
 
Millers size isn't a flaw, bet if he was 6'3" he wouldn't have as much fire and explosion. He's 5'11" but has a 5" chip on his shoulder. Not to mention that's a rock solid 5'11" he's standing at, my first thought of this kid was Steve smith and I'm stuck on that, it's like watching him suit up for Memphis.


Not Washington... don't say that man, you're better than That.
I'll stick to it with Washington. I've studied enough to know he's way more NFL ready that people think. But it will depend on the team that drafts him. He doesn't run a lot of routes but he runs them well, he tracks the ball well, controls the CB, attacks the ball and fights for it, can box out better than people think. His hands are OK, not Ridley but not Perriman. People appear to think he's athletic, he's really not. He's just a smart and crafty WR.
 
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