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JoeyFlex5 said:
All the targaryens have purple eyes in the book, that's not just a dany thing. And I don't see how dany could represent ice at all, as far as I know it's either about Jon being stark and targaryen(ice and fire) OR it's about Jon and dany joining forces. Another possibility is dany and the dragons vs the white walkers, or even the fire worshippers vs the white walkers, and with Jon discovering the fire priests and melisandre it's possible that it becomes the meaning.

Or it could just be a broad term of all this fire related shit killing the white walkers
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i thought it might be a hint at the "flowery" "poetic" title (suggested by sam tarly) that the arch maester gives his work documenting this present period in westerosi history
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
All the targaryens have purple eyes in the book, that's not just a dany thing. And I don't see how dany could represent ice at all, as far as I know it's either about Jon being stark and targaryen(ice and fire) OR it's about Jon and dany joining forces. Another possibility is dany and the dragons vs the white walkers, or even the fire worshippers vs the white walkers, and with Jon discovering the fire priests and melisandre it's possible that it becomes the meaning.

Or it could just be a broad term of all this fire related shit killing the white walkers
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Plot twist: Jon Snow is the last airbender.
 
rossihunter2 said:
i thought it might be a hint at the "flowery" "poetic" title (suggested by sam tarly) that the arch maester gives his work documenting this present period in westerosi history
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Are you talking about the theory that Sam is documenting this whole thing and that's how the book came to be?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
Are you talking about the theory that Sam is documenting this whole thing and that's how the book came to be?
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i didnt know that was a theory but i can maybe get behind that given the exchange between sam and the archmaester (jim broadbent - couldnt remember his character name lol) - when broadbent said what he was gonna call his record of the present and sam was disappointed and said it needed to be more poetic
 
I love GoT, but I've just done a Breaking Bad rewatch and I'd honestly take that over GoT (fly episode notwithstanding - Bryan Cranston deserves an emmy just for keeping a straight face in that episode). And while I'm already committing sacrilege, I think there's a legit argument that Better Call Saul is better than BB - though that gets a couple of steps up by building on the BB universe so BB does a significant amount of leg work, and from the producers honing the craft of incrementally developing its characters. This GoT season's been good, but ever since the show got ahead of GRRM's work the episodes have been kinda hackneyed at times and they feel more rushed than they did in the first few seasons - while at other times GoT's down moments (resetting the board in season five, for example) were slower than any string of BB episodes.
 
Inqui said:
I love GoT, but I've just done a Breaking Bad rewatch and I'd honestly take that over GoT (fly episode notwithstanding - Bryan Cranston deserves an emmy just for keeping a straight face in that episode). And while I'm already committing sacrilege, I think there's a legit argument that Better Call Saul is better than BB - though that gets a couple of steps up by building on the BB universe so BB does a significant amount of leg work, and from the producers honing the craft of incrementally developing its characters. This GoT season's been good, but ever since the show got ahead of GRRM's work the episodes have been kinda hackneyed at times and they feel more rushed than they did in the first few seasons - while at other times GoT's down moments (resetting the board in season five, for example) were slower than any string of BB episodes.
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I think the focus on fewer but bigger storylines makes it faster by nature. At this point there are only a few storylines, the whitewalkers, Jon and dany joining forces, Jaime and bronn leading the Lannister forces against danys alliance, and then littlefinger/Sansa/arya, there isn't really much else.

In season 1 for example, you had john arryns death being investigated, Ned being too honest at kings landing, littlefinger working the starks, varys pulling strings to keep dany alive while Robert tries to kill her, dany/viserys/drogo/jorah, Sansa and Joffrey, just Joffrey, stannis and melisandre, Jon at castle black, Jaime crippling bran, Ned tried for treason, all this stuff, and the subplots actually broaden from there. There is a lot of leg work being done really up until the stannis rebellion ends and then it begins focusing on bigger plot lines which take more screen time. It was the boltons and the battle of the bastards, and now it's the whitewalkers and dany vs cersei.

I'm not sure GRRM himself would want it different, the leg work has been done and now it's heating up quickly like it should.
 
Game of thrones has always been solid. Season 3 was fantastic, then 5, 6 and 7 afterwards have all been great. I still think season 6 will be my favorite.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I think the focus on fewer but bigger storylines makes it faster by nature. At this point there are only a few storylines, the whitewalkers, Jon and dany joining forces, Jaime and bronn leading the Lannister forces against danys alliance, and then littlefinger/Sansa/arya, there isn't really much else.

In season 1 for example, you had john arryns death being investigated, Ned being too honest at kings landing, littlefinger working the starks, varys pulling strings to keep dany alive while Robert tries to kill her, dany/viserys/drogo/jorah, Sansa and Joffrey, just Joffrey, stannis and melisandre, Jon at castle black, Jaime crippling bran, Ned tried for treason, all this stuff, and the subplots actually broaden from there. There is a lot of leg work being done really up until the stannis rebellion ends and then it begins focusing on bigger plot lines which take more screen time. It was the boltons and the battle of the bastards, and now it's the whitewalkers and dany vs cersei.

I'm not sure GRRM himself would want it different, the leg work has been done and now it's heating up quickly like it should.
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The Arya storyline's a good example of what I mean - in the books her transition is more methodical than just going on strike and telling Jaqen where to shove it so you can actually see how she's on track to become a badass killer with a range of experience, while the show makes a fair few assumptions. The most recent relationship is another example - it kinda goes from 0-100 without much buildup and we're asked to believe it. Or Dany's dragons going from untameable to being perfect thralls almost almost instantly without showing anything of the transition - that's a trick the West Wing (another show I loved) employed a fair bit and it bugged me there too. A lot of those plots could easily be developed out on TV so they reach a more developed conclusion instead of getting rushed - Vince Gilligan's a master of this stuff but Benioff and Weiss aren't.

And like I say the show's been employing a few cheap TV tricks that bug me - Arya surviving that trained assassin by falling from several great heights, Jon going full Leeroy Jenkins into the Boltons' army and nothing happening, the Arya/Sansa miscommunication cliches, Theon getting kicked in the crotch and nothing happening and that kinda stuff (not to mention how everyone saw the redemption arc a mile away). I remember talking with a few people on the old forum about this so I'm not just ripping on this season - I think the key moment most of that started happening was after the show guys got ahead of the books. And lastly character stuff like Cersei going from insane to being a better schemer than Tyrion almost overnight or Theon being resolute after the mental wrecking Ramsey put on him.

It's still a great show (one of my favourites and I went in to bat for it when people were getting sick of it when season 5 was slow as molasses) and it's been a great season, but when stacking it up against Breaking Bad I think the above stuff does come into play. But of course that's just me.
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
GoT has passed BrBa as my #1 show of all time this season. It's been amazing
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I'm still faithful to Vikings but it's really narrow since this season.

The scene with Bran telling Sam that he's the 3 eyed Raven and Sam being like «Nice pal, very cool» was so funny.
 
Jacquouille said:
I'm still faithful to Vikings but it's really narrow since this season.

The scene with Bran telling Sam that he's the 3 eyed Raven and Sam being like «Nice pal, very cool» was so funny.
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I thought i was the only one who held that show in such high regards. Its just such a fun watch and really just a bad ass show. Next dog i get im naming it Ragnar
 
usmccharles said:
I thought i was the only one who held that show in such high regards. Its just such a fun watch and really just a bad ass show. Next dog i get im naming it Ragnar
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It is bad ass. Some of the best fight scenes I've seen. Ragnar is an all time favourite of mine. Took me 4 seasons to really understand him. But I thought season 4 was, as a whole, a bit behind the others. I'm glad we get to follow new storylines and characters, hope it comes back to the more raw approach it took in the first seasons.
 
Jacquouille said:
It is bad ass. Some of the best fight scenes I've seen. Ragnar is an all time favourite of mine. Took me 4 seasons to really understand him. But I thought season 4 was, as a whole, a bit behind the others. I'm glad we get to follow new storylines and characters, hope it comes back to the more raw approach it took in the first seasons.
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I love his mindset of wanting to know more about the world and the relationship he developed with Athelstan made him who he was. Absolutely a top show of mine if not my favorite. Its no breaking bad, BCS, or Fargo, its just one of those shows thats such a great watch. One of my favorite scenes is when and him and King Ecbert argue about Heaven and Valhalla, hilarious but awesome.

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