• Welcome to PurpleFlock! Sign up here so that you can chat with your fellow Ravens fans.

The Random Thought Thread

OURavensFan said:
I’m still pissed off about those 5 illegal formation penalties on us never to be seen again all year. Cheifs refs are insane
Click to expand...
I rewatched the 2022 afc championship redue call chiefs against bengals. I can't believe that actually happened, only time I've ever felt and for cincy. I think that is easily the most rigged play I've seen in my entire history of watching football. The refs didn't stop the play, no whistle, just sat there and watched and when 2 minutes later when chiefs are about to punt, oh wait redue the play we didn't start the clock.



It actually makes me really disheartened to see plays like this and think we will get a remotely fair game (if we can get there) This play happened pre Taylor swift revenue too.
 
2 thoughts. I don't like the number 18. And the helmets look cool, but they also remind me of the Vikings helmets

 
Kyle Hamilton is always so candid when speaking. When asked if they needed to simplify the defense, he basically said no, the guys have to execute. It's everything I keep hearing. They know what they're supposed to be doing... they're just not doing it.
 
Simba said:
Kyle Hamilton is always so candid when speaking. When asked if they needed to simplify the defense, he basically said no, the guys have to execute. It's everything I keep hearing. They know what they're supposed to be doing... they're just not doing it.
Click to expand...
But they're not stupid players. They've done things correctly for years. And even if there is drop-off, there's never an acceptable reason to go from 1 to 32
 
Tank said:
Excellent article outlining the pass defense issues.


https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/...sguised-coverages-XU35W74AEFB3HBIM7HEOQJ7KXE/
Click to expand...
for people without a subscription

Zach Orr hasn’t changed the Ravens’ pass defense much. Why is it so broken?Jonas Shaffer​

10/30/2024 12:56 p.m. EDT




You can learn a lot by watching all 59 (yes, 59) of the explosive plays Baltimore has given up this year​

The best thing the Ravens’ defense did Sunday looked a lot like one of the worst things it did Sunday — until the end, anyway. That’s when things tend to fall apart. That’s where a pass defense that was one of the NFL’s best only a year ago now looks like one of the worst.
The two plays happened about a quarter apart in the Ravens’ stunning 29-24 loss to the Cleveland Browns. Strategically, defensive coordinator Zach Orr’s play calls had similar intentions: Scramble the offense’s pass protection responsibilities with a heavy-pressure look at the line of scrimmage. Drop defenders into the second level to deter quick releases over the middle. Move a deep safety around at the snap to confuse the quarterback’s initial read.

The first play worked like a dream. Late in the second quarter, safety Kyle Hamilton timed his blitz perfectly, swinging around the left side of the Browns’ line unmarked as cornerback Arthur Maulet, who’d feigned a blitz look from the right side, dropped into coverage. Quarterback Jameis Winston barely had time to reach the end of his drop before Hamilton crunched him in the back, jarring the ball loose and forcing a turnover. The Ravens recovered at Cleveland’s 25-yard line and scored a touchdown less than a minute later.

That other play, though? A nightmare. Late in the third quarter, with Cleveland facing third-and-5 at the Ravens’ 22, the Ravens mistakenly lined up without an edge rusher over Browns left tackle Dawand Jones. As outside linebacker Odafe Oweh hustled over, Winston snapped the ball. Maulet’s blitz from his blind side was unmarked, but it didn’t matter. Winston threw quickly to the pocket of space that safety Eddie Jackson had just vacated as the defense mutated from a two-high coverage shell to a one-high look. Wide receiver Cedric Tillman caught the in-breaker around the Ravens’ 15, wasn’t touched until around the 5 and reached the end zone for his first career touchdown a moment later.
Under coach John Harbaugh, the Ravens want to muddle the picture for opposing quarterbacks. That can be difficult when not everyone on defense gets the picture.

“We try to keep people guessing,” Harbaugh said Monday. “It’s a big part of our defense, and the execution part of it, for the most part, has been good, but there have been plenty of times where it hasn’t been good.”

Sunday marked a new low for the Ravens’ defense, which allowed 334 passing yards to what had been, under sidelined starter Deshaun Watson, the NFL’s worst aerial attack. Needing one final stop to preserve a late lead in Cleveland, the Ravens gave up 74 passing yards on the Browns’ last possession, the final 38 coming on Winston’s last-minute, go-ahead touchdown strike to Tillman.

The Ravens enter Sunday’s game against the Denver Broncos atop a bunch of unpleasant leaderboards. Most passing yards allowed in the NFL (2,331). Most touchdown passes allowed in the NFL (17). Most dropped interceptions in the NFL (eight, according to Pro Football Focus).
If schematic bewilderment were quantifiable, the Ravens would probably lead the NFL in that, too. Coverage busts have derailed the defense in nearly every game, a trend made all the more vexing by the relative continuity in the team’s defensive system. When rising-star coordinator Mike Macdonald was named the Seattle Seahawks’ head coach this past offseason, Harbaugh hand-picked Orr, then the Ravens’ inside linebackers coach, to be the unit’s new play-caller.

(Defensive backs coach Dennard Wilson subsequently left to become defensive coordinator in Tennessee, which now allows the fewest passing yards per game in the NFL.)

Through eight weeks, Orr has embraced the hallmarks of Macdonald’s scheme without finding the same level of success. The presnap sleights of hand that baffled quarterbacks last year aren’t really fooling anybody this year.

It’s not for a lack of trying, though. According to Field Vision, the 2023 Ravens disguised their coverage — usually showing a two-high look before shifting to one high close to the snap, or vice versa — on 41.3% of their plays, one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 41.5%.

The 2023 Ravens ran a simulated pressure — where the threat of five or more pass rushers forces offenses to adjust their protection rules and keep blockers in, only for the defense to send just four pass rushers after the quarterback — on 27.4% of their plays, also one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 26%.

“You can’t just really line up against these guys too often and just show them what you’re in,” Harbaugh said. “You do that with the [Joe] Burrows and those guys, it’s tough, so that’s always been what we’ve done. We’ve been a big disguise team. We’ve been a big [simulated pressure] team. We’ve blitzed from both sides. We’ve shown blitzes one way and blitzed the other way and run out of it. We’ve shown one way and come that way. We’ve shown edge and come to the middle. We try to keep it moving.”

Imitation hasn’t led to duplication for the Ravens, but not because of a sudden inability to deceive quarterbacks. A review of the 59 “explosive” pass plays (gains of at least 16 yards) the defense has allowed this year, by far the most in the NFL, found disguise-related coverage breakdowns in only about a dozen. The rest were more standard-issue failures in execution: one-on-one battles lost, zone holes punctured, open-field tackles missed, out-of-structure chaos allowed. An inconsistent pass rush hasn’t patched over many holes, either.
Still, the Ravens’ struggles with changing the picture are instructive. No one in the back end has been immune to blunders. In Week 1, Hamilton never dropped into his assigned zone, freeing Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy for a wide-open 35-yard touchdown.
In Week 3, safety Marcus Williams’ struggles with his positioning after late coverage rotations helped open a couple of throwing lanes to Dallas Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson.

In Week 5, cornerback Marlon Humphrey and Jackson ended up defending the same patch of grass as the Ravens shifted from a two-high shell to one high, giving Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase the runway he needed to run under a 41-yard touchdown pass.
In Week 6, inside linebackers Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson dropped into no-man’s land on one disguised look that ended with a 28-yard completion to Washington Commanders wide receiver Noah Brown.

“We come in every week, we work hard in practice — we just have to let it translate to the game,” Jackson said after Sunday’s game. “Coach is putting us in that position to make those plays. We just have to get out of this funk that we’re in.”

The Ravens have done it before. In 2022, Macdonald’s first year as a coordinator in Baltimore, his defense allowed more passing yards over its first eight games (2,134) than all but four teams. But over the Ravens’ next nine games, bolstered by a midseason trade for Smith, they allowed the 11th-fewest passing yards.

On paper, this Ravens team has a more talented defensive core. It also has a far more potent offense. But it’s Orr’s show to run now. The challenge is finding out which of Macdonald’s magic tricks can still work for this defense. Only then can the Ravens develop a routine that works for them.

“We’re going to get it better and better and better, and I don’t know if we’re going to get it perfect, but we’re going to try,” Harbaugh said, “or we’re going to die trying.”
 
RavensMania said:
for people without a subscription

Zach Orr hasn’t changed the Ravens’ pass defense much. Why is it so broken?Jonas Shaffer​

10/30/2024 12:56 p.m. EDT




You can learn a lot by watching all 59 (yes, 59) of the explosive plays Baltimore has given up this year​

The best thing the Ravens’ defense did Sunday looked a lot like one of the worst things it did Sunday — until the end, anyway. That’s when things tend to fall apart. That’s where a pass defense that was one of the NFL’s best only a year ago now looks like one of the worst.
The two plays happened about a quarter apart in the Ravens’ stunning 29-24 loss to the Cleveland Browns. Strategically, defensive coordinator Zach Orr’s play calls had similar intentions: Scramble the offense’s pass protection responsibilities with a heavy-pressure look at the line of scrimmage. Drop defenders into the second level to deter quick releases over the middle. Move a deep safety around at the snap to confuse the quarterback’s initial read.

The first play worked like a dream. Late in the second quarter, safety Kyle Hamilton timed his blitz perfectly, swinging around the left side of the Browns’ line unmarked as cornerback Arthur Maulet, who’d feigned a blitz look from the right side, dropped into coverage. Quarterback Jameis Winston barely had time to reach the end of his drop before Hamilton crunched him in the back, jarring the ball loose and forcing a turnover. The Ravens recovered at Cleveland’s 25-yard line and scored a touchdown less than a minute later.

That other play, though? A nightmare. Late in the third quarter, with Cleveland facing third-and-5 at the Ravens’ 22, the Ravens mistakenly lined up without an edge rusher over Browns left tackle Dawand Jones. As outside linebacker Odafe Oweh hustled over, Winston snapped the ball. Maulet’s blitz from his blind side was unmarked, but it didn’t matter. Winston threw quickly to the pocket of space that safety Eddie Jackson had just vacated as the defense mutated from a two-high coverage shell to a one-high look. Wide receiver Cedric Tillman caught the in-breaker around the Ravens’ 15, wasn’t touched until around the 5 and reached the end zone for his first career touchdown a moment later.
Under coach John Harbaugh, the Ravens want to muddle the picture for opposing quarterbacks. That can be difficult when not everyone on defense gets the picture.

“We try to keep people guessing,” Harbaugh said Monday. “It’s a big part of our defense, and the execution part of it, for the most part, has been good, but there have been plenty of times where it hasn’t been good.”

Sunday marked a new low for the Ravens’ defense, which allowed 334 passing yards to what had been, under sidelined starter Deshaun Watson, the NFL’s worst aerial attack. Needing one final stop to preserve a late lead in Cleveland, the Ravens gave up 74 passing yards on the Browns’ last possession, the final 38 coming on Winston’s last-minute, go-ahead touchdown strike to Tillman.

The Ravens enter Sunday’s game against the Denver Broncos atop a bunch of unpleasant leaderboards. Most passing yards allowed in the NFL (2,331). Most touchdown passes allowed in the NFL (17). Most dropped interceptions in the NFL (eight, according to Pro Football Focus).
If schematic bewilderment were quantifiable, the Ravens would probably lead the NFL in that, too. Coverage busts have derailed the defense in nearly every game, a trend made all the more vexing by the relative continuity in the team’s defensive system. When rising-star coordinator Mike Macdonald was named the Seattle Seahawks’ head coach this past offseason, Harbaugh hand-picked Orr, then the Ravens’ inside linebackers coach, to be the unit’s new play-caller.

(Defensive backs coach Dennard Wilson subsequently left to become defensive coordinator in Tennessee, which now allows the fewest passing yards per game in the NFL.)

Through eight weeks, Orr has embraced the hallmarks of Macdonald’s scheme without finding the same level of success. The presnap sleights of hand that baffled quarterbacks last year aren’t really fooling anybody this year.

It’s not for a lack of trying, though. According to Field Vision, the 2023 Ravens disguised their coverage — usually showing a two-high look before shifting to one high close to the snap, or vice versa — on 41.3% of their plays, one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 41.5%.

The 2023 Ravens ran a simulated pressure — where the threat of five or more pass rushers forces offenses to adjust their protection rules and keep blockers in, only for the defense to send just four pass rushers after the quarterback — on 27.4% of their plays, also one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 26%.

“You can’t just really line up against these guys too often and just show them what you’re in,” Harbaugh said. “You do that with the [Joe] Burrows and those guys, it’s tough, so that’s always been what we’ve done. We’ve been a big disguise team. We’ve been a big [simulated pressure] team. We’ve blitzed from both sides. We’ve shown blitzes one way and blitzed the other way and run out of it. We’ve shown one way and come that way. We’ve shown edge and come to the middle. We try to keep it moving.”

Imitation hasn’t led to duplication for the Ravens, but not because of a sudden inability to deceive quarterbacks. A review of the 59 “explosive” pass plays (gains of at least 16 yards) the defense has allowed this year, by far the most in the NFL, found disguise-related coverage breakdowns in only about a dozen. The rest were more standard-issue failures in execution: one-on-one battles lost, zone holes punctured, open-field tackles missed, out-of-structure chaos allowed. An inconsistent pass rush hasn’t patched over many holes, either.
Still, the Ravens’ struggles with changing the picture are instructive. No one in the back end has been immune to blunders. In Week 1, Hamilton never dropped into his assigned zone, freeing Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy for a wide-open 35-yard touchdown.
In Week 3, safety Marcus Williams’ struggles with his positioning after late coverage rotations helped open a couple of throwing lanes to Dallas Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson.

In Week 5, cornerback Marlon Humphrey and Jackson ended up defending the same patch of grass as the Ravens shifted from a two-high shell to one high, giving Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase the runway he needed to run under a 41-yard touchdown pass.
In Week 6, inside linebackers Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson dropped into no-man’s land on one disguised look that ended with a 28-yard completion to Washington Commanders wide receiver Noah Brown.

“We come in every week, we work hard in practice — we just have to let it translate to the game,” Jackson said after Sunday’s game. “Coach is putting us in that position to make those plays. We just have to get out of this funk that we’re in.”

The Ravens have done it before. In 2022, Macdonald’s first year as a coordinator in Baltimore, his defense allowed more passing yards over its first eight games (2,134) than all but four teams. But over the Ravens’ next nine games, bolstered by a midseason trade for Smith, they allowed the 11th-fewest passing yards.

On paper, this Ravens team has a more talented defensive core. It also has a far more potent offense. But it’s Orr’s show to run now. The challenge is finding out which of Macdonald’s magic tricks can still work for this defense. Only then can the Ravens develop a routine that works for them.

“We’re going to get it better and better and better, and I don’t know if we’re going to get it perfect, but we’re going to try,” Harbaugh said, “or we’re going to die trying.”
Click to expand...
Thanks, I thought The Banner allowed occasional access to articles. It's all a paywall now?
 
All_black_everything said:
Making a strength even stronger? Trying to ride the offensive to a Super Bowl. If we can keep our Offense rolling and even get the defense to average… I think we have a chance
Click to expand...

At this point, we are going to be the 2015 Broncos but in reverse. Instead of a defense carrying the offense to a Super Bowl win, it's going to be Lamar scoring 50 points a game all the way to the Super Bowl to carry the defense to a Super Bowl win.
 
Simba said:
Kyle Hamilton is always so candid when speaking. When asked if they needed to simplify the defense, he basically said no, the guys have to execute. It's everything I keep hearing. They know what they're supposed to be doing... they're just not doing it.
Click to expand...

UPennChem said:
But they're not stupid players. They've done things correctly for years. And even if there is drop-off, there's never an acceptable reason to go from 1 to 32
Click to expand...

RavensMania said:
for people without a subscription

Zach Orr hasn’t changed the Ravens’ pass defense much. Why is it so broken?Jonas Shaffer​

10/30/2024 12:56 p.m. EDT




You can learn a lot by watching all 59 (yes, 59) of the explosive plays Baltimore has given up this year​

The best thing the Ravens’ defense did Sunday looked a lot like one of the worst things it did Sunday — until the end, anyway. That’s when things tend to fall apart. That’s where a pass defense that was one of the NFL’s best only a year ago now looks like one of the worst.
The two plays happened about a quarter apart in the Ravens’ stunning 29-24 loss to the Cleveland Browns. Strategically, defensive coordinator Zach Orr’s play calls had similar intentions: Scramble the offense’s pass protection responsibilities with a heavy-pressure look at the line of scrimmage. Drop defenders into the second level to deter quick releases over the middle. Move a deep safety around at the snap to confuse the quarterback’s initial read.

The first play worked like a dream. Late in the second quarter, safety Kyle Hamilton timed his blitz perfectly, swinging around the left side of the Browns’ line unmarked as cornerback Arthur Maulet, who’d feigned a blitz look from the right side, dropped into coverage. Quarterback Jameis Winston barely had time to reach the end of his drop before Hamilton crunched him in the back, jarring the ball loose and forcing a turnover. The Ravens recovered at Cleveland’s 25-yard line and scored a touchdown less than a minute later.

That other play, though? A nightmare. Late in the third quarter, with Cleveland facing third-and-5 at the Ravens’ 22, the Ravens mistakenly lined up without an edge rusher over Browns left tackle Dawand Jones. As outside linebacker Odafe Oweh hustled over, Winston snapped the ball. Maulet’s blitz from his blind side was unmarked, but it didn’t matter. Winston threw quickly to the pocket of space that safety Eddie Jackson had just vacated as the defense mutated from a two-high coverage shell to a one-high look. Wide receiver Cedric Tillman caught the in-breaker around the Ravens’ 15, wasn’t touched until around the 5 and reached the end zone for his first career touchdown a moment later.
Under coach John Harbaugh, the Ravens want to muddle the picture for opposing quarterbacks. That can be difficult when not everyone on defense gets the picture.

“We try to keep people guessing,” Harbaugh said Monday. “It’s a big part of our defense, and the execution part of it, for the most part, has been good, but there have been plenty of times where it hasn’t been good.”

Sunday marked a new low for the Ravens’ defense, which allowed 334 passing yards to what had been, under sidelined starter Deshaun Watson, the NFL’s worst aerial attack. Needing one final stop to preserve a late lead in Cleveland, the Ravens gave up 74 passing yards on the Browns’ last possession, the final 38 coming on Winston’s last-minute, go-ahead touchdown strike to Tillman.

The Ravens enter Sunday’s game against the Denver Broncos atop a bunch of unpleasant leaderboards. Most passing yards allowed in the NFL (2,331). Most touchdown passes allowed in the NFL (17). Most dropped interceptions in the NFL (eight, according to Pro Football Focus).
If schematic bewilderment were quantifiable, the Ravens would probably lead the NFL in that, too. Coverage busts have derailed the defense in nearly every game, a trend made all the more vexing by the relative continuity in the team’s defensive system. When rising-star coordinator Mike Macdonald was named the Seattle Seahawks’ head coach this past offseason, Harbaugh hand-picked Orr, then the Ravens’ inside linebackers coach, to be the unit’s new play-caller.

(Defensive backs coach Dennard Wilson subsequently left to become defensive coordinator in Tennessee, which now allows the fewest passing yards per game in the NFL.)

Through eight weeks, Orr has embraced the hallmarks of Macdonald’s scheme without finding the same level of success. The presnap sleights of hand that baffled quarterbacks last year aren’t really fooling anybody this year.

It’s not for a lack of trying, though. According to Field Vision, the 2023 Ravens disguised their coverage — usually showing a two-high look before shifting to one high close to the snap, or vice versa — on 41.3% of their plays, one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 41.5%.

The 2023 Ravens ran a simulated pressure — where the threat of five or more pass rushers forces offenses to adjust their protection rules and keep blockers in, only for the defense to send just four pass rushers after the quarterback — on 27.4% of their plays, also one of the league’s highest rates. The 2024 Ravens are at 26%.

“You can’t just really line up against these guys too often and just show them what you’re in,” Harbaugh said. “You do that with the [Joe] Burrows and those guys, it’s tough, so that’s always been what we’ve done. We’ve been a big disguise team. We’ve been a big [simulated pressure] team. We’ve blitzed from both sides. We’ve shown blitzes one way and blitzed the other way and run out of it. We’ve shown one way and come that way. We’ve shown edge and come to the middle. We try to keep it moving.”

Imitation hasn’t led to duplication for the Ravens, but not because of a sudden inability to deceive quarterbacks. A review of the 59 “explosive” pass plays (gains of at least 16 yards) the defense has allowed this year, by far the most in the NFL, found disguise-related coverage breakdowns in only about a dozen. The rest were more standard-issue failures in execution: one-on-one battles lost, zone holes punctured, open-field tackles missed, out-of-structure chaos allowed. An inconsistent pass rush hasn’t patched over many holes, either.
Still, the Ravens’ struggles with changing the picture are instructive. No one in the back end has been immune to blunders. In Week 1, Hamilton never dropped into his assigned zone, freeing Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Xavier Worthy for a wide-open 35-yard touchdown.
In Week 3, safety Marcus Williams’ struggles with his positioning after late coverage rotations helped open a couple of throwing lanes to Dallas Cowboys tight end Jake Ferguson.

In Week 5, cornerback Marlon Humphrey and Jackson ended up defending the same patch of grass as the Ravens shifted from a two-high shell to one high, giving Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Ja’Marr Chase the runway he needed to run under a 41-yard touchdown pass.
In Week 6, inside linebackers Roquan Smith and Trenton Simpson dropped into no-man’s land on one disguised look that ended with a 28-yard completion to Washington Commanders wide receiver Noah Brown.

“We come in every week, we work hard in practice — we just have to let it translate to the game,” Jackson said after Sunday’s game. “Coach is putting us in that position to make those plays. We just have to get out of this funk that we’re in.”

The Ravens have done it before. In 2022, Macdonald’s first year as a coordinator in Baltimore, his defense allowed more passing yards over its first eight games (2,134) than all but four teams. But over the Ravens’ next nine games, bolstered by a midseason trade for Smith, they allowed the 11th-fewest passing yards.

On paper, this Ravens team has a more talented defensive core. It also has a far more potent offense. But it’s Orr’s show to run now. The challenge is finding out which of Macdonald’s magic tricks can still work for this defense. Only then can the Ravens develop a routine that works for them.

“We’re going to get it better and better and better, and I don’t know if we’re going to get it perfect, but we’re going to try,” Harbaugh said, “or we’re going to die trying.”
Click to expand...
Now if this defense was about as makeshift as it gets (something like 2013), then okay, fine. But it still just............baffles me to have almost the same defense from last season and have one of the most insane dropoffs I've ever seen.

Like how do they forget to do the simple shit correctly?
 
Dom McRaven said:
Now if this defense was about as makeshift as it gets (something like 2013), then okay, fine. But it still just............baffles me to have almost the same defense from last season and have one of the most insane dropoffs I've ever seen.

Like how do they forget to do the simple shit correctly?
Click to expand...
I think losing Dennard Wilson as their secondary coach hurt more than people realize. When he left Philly, they also had a dramatic fall off.
 
JO_75 said:
At this point, we are going to be the 2015 Broncos but in reverse. Instead of a defense carrying the offense to a Super Bowl win, it's going to be Lamar scoring 50 points a game all the way to the Super Bowl to carry the defense to a Super Bowl win.
Click to expand...
I mean theoretically, as long as guys catch the ball, Lamar could will this team all the way, he’s that kinda dude, but like I said guys gotta catch it, and frankly Lamar also needs to show up and not slip up. If he and Henry get hot enough in January then yeah the defense might not matter that much.

But Lamar has yet to put on such a playoff performance. If he were able to do that then everyone would need to stfu about him.
 
jamesdean said:
I think losing Dennard Wilson as their secondary coach hurt more than people realize. When he left Philly, they also had a dramatic fall off.
Click to expand...
What is with this effect? I’m interested in understanding more. Is this guy implanting AI into his DBs or something?
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I mean theoretically, as long as guys catch the ball, Lamar could will this team all the way, he’s that kinda dude, but like I said guys gotta catch it, and frankly Lamar also needs to show up and not slip up. If he and Henry get hot enough in January then yeah the defense might not matter that much.

But Lamar has yet to put on such a playoff performance. If he were able to do that then everyone would need to stfu about him.
Click to expand...
Not only this, but as far as regular season games, he owes us a few good games against the Steelers. I'm getting tired of these underwhelming performances against them. In his defense, he should've had an amazing game against them last season in PIT if mf's wouldn't have had the dropsies.
 
Dom McRaven said:
Not only this, but as far as regular season games, he owes us a few good games against the Steelers. I'm getting tired of these underwhelming performances against them. In his defense, he should've had an amazing game against them last season in PIT if mf's wouldn't have had the dropsies.
Click to expand...
I maintain the two are connected, if he dominates the Steelers he will dominate the playoffs, the demons are cousins
 
JoeyFlex5 said:
I mean theoretically, as long as guys catch the ball, Lamar could will this team all the way, he’s that kinda dude, but like I said guys gotta catch it, and frankly Lamar also needs to show up and not slip up. If he and Henry get hot enough in January then yeah the defense might not matter that much.

But Lamar has yet to put on such a playoff performance. If he were able to do that then everyone would need to stfu about him.
Click to expand...
Of course tank likes this
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top