The Greek
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if he were not made out of dust i would be all for it
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WR/RB Thread
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RaineV1
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If it wasn't for the injuries, I'd say he could be used similar to how Green Bay uses Montgomery. But I'd be scared to really rely on him until he manages to go a full season.
Rav'n Maniac
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I totally understand the injury risks with his background. As well, we can't not use him cause he may get hurt. I'd rather see the team ride him as long as he can go and get some payback for the money they have given and he continues to receive. Being on a one year contract, who knows if he's going to be here next year.
The only thing is he's probably not a great pass blocker and he's not really a threat in the run game so when defences see him in the backfield they know it's a pass and teams will match him up with another corner/safety rather than a linebacker...
Rav'n Maniac
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True, I wouldn't expect him to do any serious pass blocking and as I said earlier, running up the gut without a lead blocker is almost out of the question. He could chip block coming out of the backfield. There's also play action he could handle as well as quick pitches to the outside that could possibly work. We know he can be successful at that from all the jet sweeps he has run.
And, Flacco is now making the same suggestion. lol
JoeyFlex5
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so does camp have some sort of great speed? i dont recall him having game breaking speed at all, just excellent elusiveness.
if he had great speed then it could work, the threat of a sweep/toss/counter toss would always lurk with him in the backfield, which also opens up an entire playbook worth of bootlegs. but i dont think camp has anywhere near the speed he would need to do that consistently and make defenses respect it, they would sell out for zone coverage and spy on campanaro
if he had great speed then it could work, the threat of a sweep/toss/counter toss would always lurk with him in the backfield, which also opens up an entire playbook worth of bootlegs. but i dont think camp has anywhere near the speed he would need to do that consistently and make defenses respect it, they would sell out for zone coverage and spy on campanaro
Rav'n Maniac
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You are right that Camp doesn't have game breaking speed. Then again, none of our present running backs really do in consideration of their 40 times. Danny has the fastest in the 4.3's, West and Buck both run in the 4.5's and Camp slips in between within 4.4's. I kind of feel that no matter who is in the backfield, they will be spied out and I doubt the coverage would change much imo. Probably the biggest difference between camp and our backs is the amount of bulk they carry as Camp is pretty slender and certainly more fragile.
I just feel it is a positive way to get him more snaps and help us to get another set of fairly reliable hands on the field to help us move the ball.
I just feel it is a positive way to get him more snaps and help us to get another set of fairly reliable hands on the field to help us move the ball.
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BloodRaven
Pro Bowler
Maybe we should trade for someone instead of relying on some ancient HB to get healthy or a one dimensional guy who cant pass block or run inside
I'm not opposed to manufacturing more touches for camp or putting him in position to get into space but I don't think putting him in the backfield except as a jet sweep type play is a positive option
But then again we're arguing over what will essentially amount to 4-5 carries at most per game unless there's an injury
I think more likely in camps case that we run some slightly different 3rd and long (or medium) looks with camp working out of the slot and trying to create a mismatch somewhere
Rav'n Maniac
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That would be great if the team wants to give up another draft pick or a player for what amounts to a temporary band-aid unless they are better than what we presently have and if their team wants to trade them. Then what move do you make when Woodhead comes back since he and the other RB's have guaranteed salaries for this season. Just curious if you have someone worthwhile in mind?
Rav'n Maniac
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Please don't think I'm trying to argue with you, brother, or anyone else. It's only an opinion of what I feel makes the most sense to me with the least amount of moves. I wouldn't want us to have to give up someone either via trade or waivers until Woodhead can come back as I like this team for the most part. I also see no reason for them to IR Danny unless they are certain he's going to miss 8 weeks. You may be right that the team will keep it exactly as is and not do anything, or maybe end up doing something else we're not thinking of.
I'm also not trying to sing Camps praises. With me, he would have been gone last year but, right now I'm glad we have him and he's healthy.
BloodRaven
Pro Bowler
I dont have anybody in mind because theres no shortage of third down backs around the league. Woodhead might come back sure but how reliable is his old ass going to be down the stretch?
They way we act with draft picks you would think we're rebuilding and Flacco is going to be around for another 10 years, and what do we have to show for pick hoarding? Three wasted seasons, a trash offense and a strong defense that wouldnt looks so great if we hadnt bought in two elite safeties. My point (my only point) is this season should be the only one that matters and we have major problems with our offense.
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ZonaRaven
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I know that we need someone with top end speed, but Thomas Rawls is someone I'd love to go and get. With Lacey, Procise (who I'd also love and wanted out of college) and the rookie whose name is eluding me, I wouldn't be surprised if he could be had for the right price.
RaineV1
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I think Rawls would fit Roman's running scheme fairly well. Even if they don't do the big TD runs, someone with good vision and decent quickness can put up a pretty good average if they're in the right scheme.
Rawls may well be the most valuable player in that offense outside of Russell Wilson - he's literally the reason they were ok trading Lynch to the raiders... no way they part ways with Rawls unless we give up a bounty of picks/players and the only players they need are oline just like us
Rav'n Maniac
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Just seen that myself. Hate seeing Woodhead have to go on IR but the team knows better than me. Don't know much about Langford other than the few highlights I've seen. Hopefully he can help us round out the backfield.
I was sure it would be Alex Collins over Langford given that I've heard Langford isn't great in pass pro and also has been known to fumble but our backfield is certainly more interesting now than just with west/Allen and Langford can do some things catching out of the backfield
From what I remember, Collins is a bad pass catcher, and I think it ultimately ruined his chances.
That would make sense and maybe it's just coz he feels like a shiny new toy to me that I kinda wanted it to be him - it also may be that Langford is picking up the playbook faster