allblackraven
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GRo vanilla passing game hurt us
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QtR Nevermore
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I wish we'd made him an offer. I'm not too sure about our RB room this year. If this is the year Henry finally looks his age there's not much behind him.
Justice is a good pass protector but he's getting older in RB years and coming off an injury.
Ali has never had the burst to look like an actual NFL RB.
Bisciotti's guy might be a year or 2 away from contributing.
Our TEs behind Andrews could be nothing at all.
Those are the skill positions I'm more worried about.
Between Zay, Bateman, Tez and the rookies we probably...no, who am I kidding? That's a thin group too.
JAAM
Hall of Famer
Good point
Keaton never developed in the passing game - as a pass catcher or a pass protector.
If you thought those things were important in the offense under Monken, it's another level under the Johnson/Doyle offense.
Baltimorican
Veteran
I'm sure Mitchell will rack up a 146yd game with LA that'll have us pulling our hairs out but in the long run I understand why. You have to develop in the passing game and he didn't.
especially with a guy that can't carry a full load and isnt going to get many touches a game
ravenslord
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Completely right.
ravenslord
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Justice Hill is definitely a good pass catcher , so that's why they let Keaton walk.
JoeyFlex5
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Justice had a really good 2024 and I had high hopes for his 2025, he seemed to really be finding his stride in monkens offense.
Think he could bounce back in Doyle’s offense too but I’m not getting my hopes up, I feel Adam Randall is gonna be an absolute steal
redrum52
Hall of Famer
Seahawks got it
Steve going to start feeling himself if that pick hits
i think i disagree
think he's a RB3 (at best) that people will continuously overvalue (until his athleticism fades) because of his home-run ability
but he doesnt offer you much between the tackles
doesnt offer you consistent workload
doesnt offer you value as a pass catcher or in pass pro
he's a homerun hitter but he doesnt offer you return or special teams value
which means he fits a very niche role as a change of pace back without any 3rd down value - but he's also not going to be the primary backup if your primary back goes down for extended time
he definitely has value but i think it's overrated by the fanbase
more than a good pass catcher
he's become a great pass protecting back
if adam randall (or rasheen ali) are going to replace him, they're going to have to learn pass pro and get good at it quick
JoeyFlex5
Hall of Famer
I don’t consider rb1 a pass catcher or pass protector. With a good OL in front of him he could probably take 15-20 carries most weeks and produce. Health and having an all time RB1 in front of him has made it not even a possibility.
I don't think his body would last at 15-20 carries. He's been banged up a lot in his short career, and that's with a much lower workload than that.
Great pass blocker but he just a regular running back that can catch to me. He catch dump offs.
Baltimorican
Veteran
Hill's feet and balance are super underrated imo.
Everytime he in the game, its either a pass or draw. 90% of time its a pass
Ellicottraven
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You make light of it, but it's absolutely true. He has been plagued mightily by hitherto reliable receivers/TEs suddenly having butter fingers... very unfortunate, almost snake bitten in the playoffs. Lamar should be sitting on a couple of Lombardis if his receivers and team mates played up to par.
getting older but not many miles.