Jesse Minter Head Coach

[JoeyFlex5]

It's just refreshing to see effort towards making the team better. Under Harbaugh, you could see there was never any effort. Yeah uh my sister said I should hire Todd so I did. Made a huge mistake on Orr and wouldnt correct it. Got Warhop as a stopgap but then didn't upgrade on him. I mean there was pure loyalty and complacency.

Minter clearly is coming in with high effort.

2024 and 25 was all of harbaughs faults we’ve known about over the years cranked all the way up. Dude was tryna speedrun his firing with all his complacent moves or lack thereof, and by telling Steve he wants to run it back he was just making damn sure he got canned.

I wonder if he actually wanted to get fired because he doesn’t wanna coach on a team where the qb holds the same kind of power the HC does, in other words, an arrogant, prideful, authoritarian

 

[rossihunter2]

2024 and 25 was all of harbaughs faults we’ve known about over the years cranked all the way up. Dude was tryna speedrun his firing with all his complacent moves or lack thereof, and by telling Steve he wants to run it back he was just making damn sure he got canned.

I wonder if he actually wanted to get fired because he doesn’t wanna coach on a team where the qb holds the same kind of power the HC does, in other words, an arrogant, prideful, authoritarian

what's wild is that in the hiring cycle before (when he made macdonald DC) he brought in a ton of young, interesting coaches from a range of places

when it came to replacing those guys, he went back to old habits (and no wonder we struggled to counteract the brain drain in 2024)

 

[Sandtown]

You're fixated on one single hire. He was here for 18 years and was ridiculously loyal and very often complacent with his hires. In 18 years he didnt even have one OC hire that was like Doyle

Correct me if I'm wrong but I kind of think this one single hire was what influence you to post what you first previously stated. In regards to John Harbaugh I think he shown growth as a coach..Younger Harbaugh wasn't into analytics, hiring coaches from college , hiring former NFL players as coaches and etc. I think it's misguided belief that he stayed the same for 18 years . Doyle is 29 years old and honestly it's probably not common for teams to have coordinators that are 29 years old . From the top of my head I can only think of a few coaches that were coordinators around that age which was Sean Mcvay, Josh McDaniels, and someone else but I forgot his name but anyway I don't think Harbaugh never had interest in younger coordinators. Truthfully Cam Cameron was 46 years old when he was the ravens offensive coordinator ( beginning of Joe Flacco Era)and Greg Roman was 46 years old as well when he was hired as the ravens offensive coordinators( beginning of Lamar Jackson era). I guess these ages are considered old but seems like fans believe Harbaugh was hiring a bunch 60 year old offensive coordinators. the oldest offensive coordinator John Harbaugh has ever hired was Marc Trestman I think he was about 59 at the time.

Overall in regards in to Declan Doyle he's consider a exciting hire due to his age and who his mentors were but he's probably the most mysterious hire ever because I don't think any one can even pin point what his offensive system is and what his philosophy will be . The excitement for him is basically pure on hope and the idea that the ravens hired a young coach just sounds so nice. Outside of that we really don't know what to expect or what to see but I guess mystery of that is what makes it exciting. Until proven other wise its probably fair to say Cam Cameron, Marc Trestman, Gary Kubiak, Greg Roman, Marty Mornhinweg , Jim Caldwell and more recently Todd Monken are better play callers than Declan Doyle. If anyone does not agree that then that's crazy cause none of us have ever seen this guy call plays before but that's some high optimism.

 

[RavensMania]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I kind of think this one single hire was what influence you to post what you first previously stated. In regards to John Harbaugh I think he shown growth as a coach..Younger Harbaugh wasn't into analytics, hiring coaches from college , hiring former NFL players as coaches and etc. I think it's misguided belief that he stayed the same for 18 years . Doyle is 29 years old and honestly it's probably not common for teams to have coordinators that are 29 years old . From the top of my head I can only think of a few coaches that were coordinators around that age which was Sean Mcvay, Josh McDaniels, and someone else but I forgot his name but anyway I don't think Harbaugh never had interest in younger coordinators. Truthfully Cam Cameron was 46 years old when he was the ravens offensive coordinator ( beginning of Joe Flacco Era)and Greg Roman was 46 years old as well when he was hired as the ravens offensive coordinators( beginning of Lamar Jackson era). I guess these ages are considered old but seems like fans believe Harbaugh was hiring a bunch 60 year old offensive coordinators. the oldest offensive coordinator John Harbaugh has ever hired was Marc Trestman I think he was about 59 at the time.

Overall in regards in to Declan Doyle he's consider a exciting hire due to his age and who his mentors were but he's probably the most mysterious hire ever because I don't think any one can even pin point what his offensive system is and what his philosophy will be . The excitement for him is basically pure on hope and the idea that the ravens hired a young coach just sounds so nice. Outside of that we really don't know what to expect or what to see but I guess mystery of that is what makes it exciting. Until proven other wise its probably fair to say Cam Cameron, Marc Trestman, Gary Kubiak, Greg Roman, Marty Mornhinweg , Jim Caldwell and more recently Todd Monken are better play callers than Declan Doyle. If anyone does not agree that then that's crazy cause none of us have ever seen this guy call plays before but that's some high optimism.

kyle shanahan was that other OC younger than 30

 

[allblackraven]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I kind of think this one single hire was what influence you to post what you first previously stated. In regards to John Harbaugh I think he shown growth as a coach..Younger Harbaugh wasn't into analytics, hiring coaches from college , hiring former NFL players as coaches and etc. I think it's misguided belief that he stayed the same for 18 years . Doyle is 29 years old and honestly it's probably not common for teams to have coordinators that are 29 years old . From the top of my head I can only think of a few coaches that were coordinators around that age which was Sean Mcvay, Josh McDaniels, and someone else but I forgot his name but anyway I don't think Harbaugh never had interest in younger coordinators. Truthfully Cam Cameron was 46 years old when he was the ravens offensive coordinator ( beginning of Joe Flacco Era)and Greg Roman was 46 years old as well when he was hired as the ravens offensive coordinators( beginning of Lamar Jackson era). I guess these ages are considered old but seems like fans believe Harbaugh was hiring a bunch 60 year old offensive coordinators. the oldest offensive coordinator John Harbaugh has ever hired was Marc Trestman I think he was about 59 at the time.

Overall in regards in to Declan Doyle he's consider a exciting hire due to his age and who his mentors were but he's probably the most mysterious hire ever because I don't think any one can even pin point what his offensive system is and what his philosophy will be . The excitement for him is basically pure on hope and the idea that the ravens hired a young coach just sounds so nice. Outside of that we really don't know what to expect or what to see but I guess mystery of that is what makes it exciting. Until proven other wise its probably fair to say Cam Cameron, Marc Trestman, Gary Kubiak, Greg Roman, Marty Mornhinweg , Jim Caldwell and more recently Todd Monken are better play callers than Declan Doyle. If anyone does not agree that then that's crazy cause none of us have ever seen this guy call plays before but that's some high optimism.

Watch Detroit with Ben Johnson as an OC. Then watch Bears this season.

Doyle is installing the offense and preparing play sheets for Johnson. That's what parts of the offense will be. Obviously, being an extremely talented coach and smart guy, he will incorporate what Lamar and Ravens offense were successful at.

For any of that to work consistently, we first have to fix our O line big time and find some good TEs.

 

[RavensMania]

Watch Detroit with Ben Johnson as an OC. Then watch Bears this season.

Doyle is installing the offense and preparing play sheets for Johnson. That's what parts of the offense will be. Obviously, being an extremely talented coach and smart guy, he will incorporate what Lamar and Ravens offense were successful at.

For any of that to work consistently, we first have to fix our O line big time and find some good TEs.

watch All 22s channel. He did a breakdown.

 

[Tank]

Not sure if this has been posted…. From last year, but enlightening.

 

[Sandtown]

Watch Detroit with Ben Johnson as an OC. Then watch Bears this season.

Doyle is installing the offense and preparing play sheets for Johnson. That's what parts of the offense will be. Obviously, being an extremely talented coach and smart guy, he will incorporate what Lamar and Ravens offense were successful at.

For any of that to work consistently, we first have to fix our O line big time and find some good TEs.

I don't know if I can really look at Ben Johnson offense from the lions and the bears to come up with the belief thats what Declan Doyle will run. He was Ben Johnson offense coordinator and I'm sure he has to adjust his likes and etc to Ben Johnson ways of thinking especially given that Ben Johnson is the play caller and it is his offense. Doyle spent more time under Sean Payton and it's been reported that the ravens have interest in Ronald Curry whom also is coach that has worked under Sean Payton. if anything it's likely Doyle would run a offense similar to Sean Payton offense but honestly I don't think we really know what the offense will look like. I don't doubt Doyle is smart or even talented but this is still a totally new situation for him and he's legit running a offense for the first time on his own. I expect growing pains and I'm not at all expecting him to instantly produce a potent offense that rivals greast show on turf like Todd Monken offense did in 2024

 

[RavensMania]

I don't know if I can really look at Ben Johnson offense from the lions and the bears to come up with the belief thats what Declan Doyle will run. He was Ben Johnson offense coordinator and I'm sure he has to adjust his likes and etc to Ben Johnson ways of thinking especially given that Ben Johnson is the play caller and it is his offense. Doyle spent more time under Sean Payton and it's been reported that the ravens have interest in Ronald Curry whom also is coach that has worked under Sean Payton. if anything it's likely Doyle would run a offense similar to Sean Payton offense but honestly I don't think we really know what the offense will look like. I don't doubt Doyle is smart or even talented but this is still a totally new situation for him and he's legit running a offense for the first time on his own. I expect growing pains and I'm not at all expecting him to instantly produce a potent offense that rivals greast show on turf like Todd Monken offense did in 2024

I think he will absolutely bring over some of the Ben Johnson offense but absolutely have Payton's scheme as well.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't know if I can really look at Ben Johnson offense from the lions and the bears to come up with the belief thats what Declan Doyle will run. He was Ben Johnson offense coordinator and I'm sure he has to adjust his likes and etc to Ben Johnson ways of thinking especially given that Ben Johnson is the play caller and it is his offense. Doyle spent more time under Sean Payton and it's been reported that the ravens have interest in Ronald Curry whom also is coach that has worked under Sean Payton. if anything it's likely Doyle would run a offense similar to Sean Payton offense but honestly I don't think we really know what the offense will look like. I don't doubt Doyle is smart or even talented but this is still a totally new situation for him and he's legit running an offense for the first time on his own. I expect growing pains and I'm not at all expecting him to instantly produce a potent offense that rivals greast show on turf like Todd Monken offense did in 2024

That’s all valid points. However, our biggest complaint about monken Was his reliance on Lamar’s heroics, which was also valid. Now if Doyle has growing pains as a full time playcaller on game days, Lamar is back to playing hero ball, but hopefully Doyle can adjust when the hero ball is being overused, something that wasn’t happening with monken. If he came up under Sean Payton then at the very least he should be able to scheme some easy outlets and counters to pressure, which was really what the pass game needed last year and we never saw much of.

 

[RavensMania]

That’s all valid points. However, our biggest complaint about monken Was his reliance on Lamar’s heroics, which was also valid. Now if Doyle has growing pains as a full time playcaller on game days, Lamar is back to playing hero ball, but hopefully Doyle can adjust when the hero ball is being overused, something that wasn’t happening with monken. If he came up under Sean Payton then at the very least he should be able to scheme some easy outlets and counters to pressure, which was really what the pass game needed last year and we never saw much of.

Allen played hero ball with Brady a ton and Brady came up under Payton as well.

 

[Tank]

If he came up under Sean Payton then at the very least he should be able to scheme some easy outlets and counters to pressure, which was really what the pass game needed last year and we never saw much of.

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

 

[Tank]

“hero ball” is generally non scripted, improvised. No?

 

[Deebo813]

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

Not saying Lamar cant do it but it has to be a qb thing. Gonna give monken the benefit of doubt here cause its no way lol

 

[RavensMania]

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

yeah, Lamar tended to have 5 step drops while it was a much shorter drop with Huntley.

 

[gtalk12]

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

yeah, Lamar tended to have 5 step drops while it was a much shorter drop with Huntley.

Exactly this. It was weird and receivers have voiced their frustrations in the past about the play calling. They practice a ton of plays that never see the field.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

yeah, Lamar tended to have 5 step drops while it was a much shorter drop with Huntley.

Exactly this. It was weird and receivers have voiced their frustrations in the past about the play calling. They practice a ton of plays that never see the field.

I think there's a big reason when you look at the skill set of Lamar and Huntley.

The Ravens schemed short passes for Huntley because he straight up *couldn't* go deep consistently. He just didn't have the arm strength to consistently challenge vertically or get it there quickly. Lamar does.

The Ravens have always run a top down offense under Lamar where Lamar works deep reads down. Lamar has the athletic ability to buy time for those reads to come open and the ability to challenge those throws vertically.

Now, I'm sure a lot of this has to do with Lamar simply liking to go deep with consistency. We see it a lot that Lamar will go for it all if he thinks he has a window to go deep.

But we know he can work in that short to intermediate area. One of the things that encouraged me about rookie Lamar as a passer is that his throws over the middle from the 10-15 yard range led the league in completion percentage at over 70%. Lamar has always been a really good intermediate passer and he additionally loves his tight ends. It's been a big reason Andrews has worked so well here.

Why did the Ravens install such different looks for Huntley, but then not use them with Lamar? I'm not sure. It's no secret that Huntley works really well when the game is close and manageable. If the game ever got out of hand, Huntley didn't have the ability to challenge a defense and bring the Ravens back into the game. So, it isn't an offense the Ravens would want to lean on consistently.

But why not incorporate those looks more frequently for Lamar? I imagine it's a bit of leaning on Lamar's preference to be a down field passer and also a bit that the Ravens felt they needed to challenge deep to keep the defense honest.

In any case, I do hope those rhythmic type of throws become a higher emphasis under Declan.

 

[RavensMania]

Those deep throws keep the defense honest, but the quick rhythmic throws can also keep a defense honest. Basically a good balance of both would probably be best.

 

[Simba]

I've never found issue with our offense being built around long-developing plays. If Lamar has to extend those to hit the homerun, so be it.

Where I did find issue is never adjusting when that wasn't working. Not saying you get rid of those plays entirely, but you also have to move the ball to sustain drives and if you have to toss in some quick hitters to open up the possibility of what we really want to do... fucking do that. We were too stubborn at times in my opinion. Wanted the big chunks instead of incremental progress.

 

[JoeyFlex5]

I think we touched on this when Lamar was out. The plays were in Monken’s playbook, quick throws and slants were there when Snoop was in, but for whatever reason not with LJ.

That was the thing for me that ended monken. The way we saw the offense change, which covered our weaknesses on the OL, and immediately went back to hero ball when Lamar came back, it was unacceptable