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2026 Offseason Thread

rossihunter2 said:
i dont think there's any point re-signing hopkins

he and lamar just didn't gel stylistically
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Sadly not. We wasted a season when he looked like he still had it. At least some of it.

Our passing game would have been better if we could use someone like him but it seemed like so much of it happened on broken plays or late in the down and he's not suited to that.

I know it's a Ravens tradition but it seems like no veteran WR signing has really been worth it in the Lamar era. Maybe we should just draft WRs and use the money elsewhere.
 
QtR Nevermore said:
Sadly not. We wasted a season when he looked like he still had it. At least some of it.

Our passing game would have been better if we could use someone like him but it seemed like so much of it happened on broken plays or late in the down and he's not suited to that.

I know it's a Ravens tradition but it seems like no veteran WR signing has really been worth it in the Lamar era. Maybe we should just draft WRs and use the money elsewhere.
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we've had vets who've worked with lamar but we're talking about different styles of guy

willie snead, michael crabtree, nelson agholor have all been decent vet WR signings

it's just the high-profile guys that haven't been as effective
 
rossihunter2 said:
we've had vets who've worked with lamar but we're talking about different styles of guy

willie snead, michael crabtree, nelson agholor have all been decent vet WR signings

it's just the high-profile guys that haven't been as effective
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I liked Snead and Agholor in particular but think they were both underused too. Lamar just seems to like Andrews + a little fast guy for most of his targets.
 
Just a suggestion;
Trade Lamar to the Raiders for the #1 pick and then draft Mendoza. Everybody seems to think he’s the next Drake Maye?
Then again we don’t have much of an O line to protect a rookie QB. But, we do have Henry.
 
FlRavensFromBaltimore said:
Why we need to not overpay for a QB. Do you know how many of the top 10 paid QBs have Super Bowl wins? Do you know how much we were paying our QBs when we won our Super Bowls? No one player is worth that much money on a team that needs many great players to win. Tom Brady never took the big money when in NE during his great run. Do you know why?
Patrick Mahomes, shoot I think he is 14th highest paid QB? He understands how to win. A great QB looks a lot better when his team is better. We can't overspend at the QB position we would be better off losing a great QB then overpaying for one. We might do better in the long run. I would love to talk about this more, but this is my cliff notes on my opinion.
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So there's many problems with this post:
1. There's only five active SB winning NFL QBs, and two of them are not guys you would want to be building your franchise around at this stage (Rodgers and Flacco). So the whole "you can't win with an expensive QB" thing is highly likely to get obliterated in future years unless Mahomes and Hurts manage to be the only two guys winning SBs in the next 10 years (which isn't happening).
2. When the Rams won the SB, not only were they paying Stafford a lot of $, they had large dead $ cap hits for Goff to play in Detroit. They had a super expensive QB room with a lot of dead $, and still won the SB.
3. Hurts was the 9th highest paid QB in terms of AAV when he won a SB just last year.
4. Not sure how Mahomes is a good example right now, given that his team was mediocre this year and that roster is aging and needs a youth infusion on both sides of the ball. And they've struggled to provide quality receivers since he signed his extension.
5. Tom Brady took not only one, but two, top of the market, highest paid QBs in league history type deals. He wasn't taking team beneficial contracts when he was the age of the guys like Lamar, Allen, Mahomes, etc. People only think of Brady taking discounts when he was like 40. He wasn't doing that at 30.
 
Grim said:
Ricard is pretty critical it would seem to our team.

Stout, Ricard, Linderbaum are the critical ones, I'd say.

After them, the "really want back" would be: Kolar, Jones, Huntley, Awuzie

It would be nice to get back Wallace, too.
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This pretty much mirrors my thoughts, adding that while Huntley and Kolar may not be “critical”, keeping them would definitely be a smart move.

People always talk about Pat being expendable, but he continues to prove his value. While he had a slow start this year due to injury I hate to think how ugly things would have been without him.
 
Tank said:
This pretty much mirrors my thoughts, adding that while Huntley and Kolar may not be “critical”, keeping them would definitely be a smart move.

People always talk about Pat being expendable, but he continues to prove his value. While he had a slow start this year due to injury I hate to think how ugly things would have been without him.
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Pat is absolutely not expendable lol he’s a rare weapon and he’s incredibly good at his job.

He’s an all time great blocking FB and he’s doing it in 2025.
 
rossihunter2 said:
Top Priority:
Linderbaum
Ricard

Would be good to re-sign:
Huntley
Kolar
Stout

If the price is right:
Ar'Darius Washington
Dre'Mont Jones
Chidobe Awuzie

Looking at the contracts of those guys who are potential cut candidates:
Marlo and Roquan's cap hits balloon massively - if you can designate them as post-june 1st cuts then you save a ton more cap space but obviously you don't get to benefit from that in free agency - but you've got to make a decision on those guys pretty soon - you could potentially extend one of them to keep them around longer term and massage those cap numbers (Roquan would be the more obvious of the two to keep around)
The rest of those guys are guys you can make decisions on later

obviously it would be ideal if we could get an extension done with lamar for cap space
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So a) I'd be highly disappointed if we extended either and b) I'd be having discussions about paycuts (especially for Marlon) before anything. They're both due close to $20M in cash each in 2026. They're not worth that. I don't think either would get $20M in cash in 2026 as a UFA.

I'd be asking both for substantial paycuts, possibly with some incentives that could be earned back, or I'm just outright cutting pre-June 1. The only way I'd be OK with post-June 1 cuts is if you get Lamar extended before then.
 
Tank said:
This pretty much mirrors my thoughts, adding that while Huntley and Kolar may not be “critical”, keeping them would definitely be a smart move.

People always talk about Pat being expendable, but he continues to prove his value. While he had a slow start this year due to injury I hate to think how ugly things would have been without him.
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JoeyFlex5 said:
Pat is absolutely not expendable lol he’s a rare weapon and he’s incredibly good at his job.

He’s an all time great blocking FB and he’s doing it in 2025.
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Ricard showed how important he is due to his setback imho. We’ve also seen him have success with both Monken and Roman
 
rmcjacket23 said:
So a) I'd be highly disappointed if we extended either and b) I'd be having discussions about paycuts (especially for Marlon) before anything. They're both due close to $20M in cash each in 2026. They're not worth that. I don't think either would get $20M in cash in 2026 as a UFA.

I'd be asking both for substantial paycuts, possibly with some incentives that could be earned back, or I'm just outright cutting pre-June 1. The only way I'd be OK with post-June 1 cuts is if you get Lamar extended before then.
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Marlon is tricky. He’s had these up and down years before and he could have a great season next year. He was also once good and the question lingers if it’s Orr or him or both. With that said, I’m sick of him and would lean to him being gone

Roquan should take a cut
 
Grim said:
Marlon is tricky. He’s had these up and down years before and he could have a great season next year. He was also once good and the question lingers if it’s Orr or him or both. With that said, I’m sick of him and would lean to him being gone

Roquan should take a cut
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I think these two are in the same boat as Stanley was. I'd ask for cuts, threaten to cut, and give them incentives to try to earn it back. And if Marlon has a great year next year, there's no reason why you can't extend him again for 2-3 years mid-season.

While there's time, Wiggins is extension eligible basically 13 months from now. Maybe you're not doing it after year 3, but if you identify players you want to keep long term, the sooner you lock them up, the cheaper they are. I can't see them paying both Marlon and Wiggins at the same time (on top of Hamilton), so if Marlon isn't in your long term plans, I'm not sure keeping him for another year at a high cap number is a good idea.

With Roquan, I just don't like the positional value and the cash flow. I get the leadership and all that, but that's overrated in this regard.

Ultimately, if you're doing good business analysis, cash flow matters more than cap hit. People get hung up on the dead cap $ but don't realize there's nothing you can do to change that. It only matters which year you take it in, not whether it exists. As long as their is cap savings to move on (which there is), dead cap shouldn't be a factor in decision making. It should come down to "can I justify paying X $ to this player". I think that's a tough sell with both.

Couple that with the fact that I think the FO needs to re-evaluate how it builds defensive personnel AND what I think should be a push to get younger and faster on defense, and I don't see a need for keeping Marlon or Roquan around. They don't fit either of those buckets.
 
I don't really see Roquan as a viable cut at this point. It only represents a little over $7M of savings and you already have Buchanan on the edge of being ready for the season or not. Replacing Roquan for that amount doesn't seem tenable. I don't think he's played up to the contract but I also don't think he's a detriment to this team.

Now, you could June 1st him but I also don't think there's much value in (a) getting that cap later than you can really use it and (b) spreading that cap hit into 2027. At that point, you might as well keep him and get value rather than eating money to not have a player on your roster.

Again, I don't think he's played exceedingly well, but I don't think he's as bad as some are portraying by any means.
 
Simba said:
I don't really see Roquan as a viable cut at this point. It only represents a little over $7M of savings and you already have Buchanan on the edge of being ready for the season or not. Replacing Roquan for that amount doesn't seem tenable. I don't think he's played up to the contract but I also don't think he's a detriment to this team.

Now, you could June 1st him but I also don't think there's much value in (a) getting that cap later than you can really use it and (b) spreading that cap hit into 2027. At that point, you might as well keep him and get value rather than eating money to not have a player on your roster.

Again, I don't think he's played exceedingly well, but I don't think he's as bad as some are portraying by any means.
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he's also got more time left on his deal than marlo and did show that when he had a more competent running mate he was able to elevate the defence again
 
Simba said:
I don't really see Roquan as a viable cut at this point. It only represents a little over $7M of savings and you already have Buchanan on the edge of being ready for the season or not. Replacing Roquan for that amount doesn't seem tenable. I don't think he's played up to the contract but I also don't think he's a detriment to this team.

Now, you could June 1st him but I also don't think there's much value in (a) getting that cap later than you can really use it and (b) spreading that cap hit into 2027. At that point, you might as well keep him and get value rather than eating money to not have a player on your roster.

Again, I don't think he's played exceedingly well, but I don't think he's as bad as some are portraying by any means.
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Need to rework his deal with a weight incentive
 
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