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[Willbacker]

One player does not make nor break a team. That said, I think any scenario you quoted would be a massive and noticeable improvement. Including Princess Bardy.

Green Bay?

 

[29BmoreBird22]

I believe Rossi is referring to both the one year prior to Brady and his time in Cleveland.

I know he was referring the Cleveland, but Cleveland was pretty well a dumpster fire and has been for almost the entirety of their existence. I'm convinced careers just go there to die.

 

[RavensMania]

I know he was referring the Cleveland, but Cleveland was pretty well a dumpster fire and has been for almost the entirety of their existence. I'm convinced careers just go there to die.

Cleveland couldn’t win until they moved to Baltimore. He had turned that franchise around and built a tremendous front office.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

Cleveland couldn’t win until they moved to Baltimore

That city is just cursed. Notice how the Cavs didn't win the finals in Cleveland? Had to do it at GS? That should tell you something.

And the Indians blowing a lead? It's a curse.

And to be fair to BB, they did actually gradually improve under BB and actually did reach the playoffs once.

 

[RavensMania]

That city is just cursed. Notice how the Cavs didn't win the finals in Cleveland? Had to do it at GS? That should tell you something.

And the Indians blowing a lead? It's a curse.

And to be fair to BB, they did actually gradually improve under BB and actually did reach the playoffs once.

That is very funny

 

[K-Dog]

Green Bay?

What if Green Bay had say,,, Carson Palmer or Dak Prescott as a back up QB. Does that change things? Abso-freaking-lutly.

Brett Hudley is a bad QB. Simply put. Green Bay could have maintained better going from an "A level" QB to a "B or C level " QB. Brett is neither of those levels.

Simply put if Tom or Peyton, or any top level QB had butter fingers receivers, horrible playcalling and Browine Troop 546 for an o-line that QB would suck.
Most, I am saying *most* QB's would excel with the right play calling, a unbreakable o-line, gifted receivers, and a solid running game.
Can a quality QB raise the playing level of their receivers? Of course. But a quality receiver can also raise the level or their QB as well.

 

[29BmoreBird22]

What if Green Bay had say,,, Carson Palmer or Dak Prescott as a back up QB. Does that change things? Abso-freaking-lutly.

I think Prescott is showing this may not be the case.

 

[rossihunter2]

What if Green Bay had say,,, Carson Palmer or Dak Prescott as a back up QB. Does that change things? Abso-freaking-lutly.

Brett Hudley is a bad QB. Simply put. Green Bay could have maintained better going from an "A level" QB to a "B or C level " QB. Brett is neither of those levels.

Simply put if Tom or Peyton, or any top level QB had butter fingers receivers, horrible playcalling and Browine Troop 546 for an o-line that QB would suck.
Most, I am saying *most* QB's would excel with the right play calling, a unbreakable o-line, gifted receivers, and a solid running game.
Can a quality QB raise the playing level of their receivers? Of course. But a quality receiver can also raise the level or their QB as well.

but you're listing starters as backups - nobody can afford two starter level qbs - pats literally had to trade away a probable franchise starter at qb

of course you take out the starting qb on 2/3 of the teams in the nfl then their level drops significantly, the other 1/3 either suck already at qb or have a great backup (there's only maybe 3/4 of those in the league - and 2 of them are no longer really backups both from new england in brisset and garopolo)

 

[gtalk12]

What if Green Bay had say,,, Carson Palmer or Dak Prescott as a back up QB. Does that change things? Abso-freaking-lutly.

Brett Hudley is a bad QB. Simply put. Green Bay could have maintained better going from an "A level" QB to a "B or C level " QB. Brett is neither of those levels.

Simply put if Tom or Peyton, or any top level QB had butter fingers receivers, horrible playcalling and Browine Troop 546 for an o-line that QB would suck.
Most, I am saying *most* QB's would excel with the right play calling, a unbreakable o-line, gifted receivers, and a solid running game.
Can a quality QB raise the playing level of their receivers? Of course. But a quality receiver can also raise the level or their QB as well.

I try to explain this to people but they think one guy just magically changes a game when in reality chances are the coaching staff got lucky and has a guy that fits what they want to do on offense....

When the reality is that your play calling should reflect the strengths of the players you have