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Not sold on Shurmer either but at least he got a job and turned things around as an OC. Caldwell got some things done in Detroit but his offense was awful his final year. The Lions really hired him due to our SB run but in hindsight they could have done better.

Keeping Crab wouldn't be bad, but I just want an upgrade. I want teams to roll off coverage from Brown, I want more production in the middle of the field even though it would help if our QB would realize that coverage has been open there at times FWIW. I'd also like to just flat out have more...

Harbaugh's biggest problem is his undying loyalty to his OCs. People sometime direct the OC lack of continuety to Joe since he's the constant in this scenario but let's analyze this for a second. Kyle Shanahan is hated by Redskins fans and is let go to Atlanta. Leads a high powered offense to...

I hope Carolina steals the win today. Not that I think we're going to win the division but I still hope we keep it competitive. I don't want Pitt to rest their players week 17.

I'd love to keep Brown but I would like to get a #1 WR over the off-season, and I'd probably move on from Crabtree in the process. Outside of that I think Brown and Snead set.

Sure I guess lol

Absolutely, they've screwed up the past couple of years but I don't think that will save Harbaugh still.

A QB can change a team but it depends on what we get from it. We would need an elite QB to push this team to contention and the chances of that arriving next year is very low because this team isn't good enough to the point where even a good QB can get them anywhere. I'm not sure of a very...

He's a massive upgrade over Bortles. He can at least have some really good games once they add a WR or two. He might stink up the joint for a couple of them as well but he won't be the liability that Bortles is. One thing Joe has done this year and credit to him for it is take care of the...

A QB away from what? Making playoffs? I don't think making the post-season would be all that great of an achievement when what this team really wants is to contend for a title more then that. I think the standards aren't that high to make it given who has been making it the past couple of...

Absolutely. That's the type of team that Joe is perfect for and that's who we were years ago. We were that team that was a QB away and once we got Joe that put us over the type. Right now this team is not good at all from top to bottom.

Marty and Trestman were his hires, I think that should fall on him and not any one else. That's who he chooses to ride with so that's who he has to drown with. As far as his loyalty goes, Marty will likely be the 3rd OC he would fire at the end of the season, that's not something anyone would be...

That is the case but that's what you would hope for. I think he's going to have a ressurgance soon since that's the trend for Joe but it's the end of the line anyways. We would have to make the post-season and he would have to go off in order for him to stay but that's doubtful atm. I think his...

To be honest, I think Joe is going to have a good December and rebound, it wouldn't suprise me but it's not going to be enough because I've seen this story too many times and I'm over it. We need a QB who not only can play good Football on a game to game basis but for the entirety of the year...

I don't see how having 8 easy teams means that you had an easy schedule when you played 8 that were tough as nails. Yes, you beat the bad teams, but isn't that what teams who are supposed to make the post-season supposed to do? When they needed big wins they got them. I don't see the point in...

You think they were going to play that hard of a schedule for a full 16 game season? No one gets a schedule in which they play a playoff team for 16 games straight if that's what you're looking for. If we had 8 opportunities to play a playoff team that same year we most likely are taking a mean...

That is false, the Bills had a tougher schedule then us. They played the Chiefs, Patriots(Twice), Falcons(Won that), Saints, and the Panthers. That's not easy by any means and similar to the one we have this year. In fact, the Bills had the 5th hardest SOS at .561 coming into the season and it...

One thing, not on this board but things I've heard from Ravens fans is that Harbaugh should be kept around because he doesn't have a good OC around him. Well that's his fault because he hires the guys. He passed on Kyle Shannahan and I think he did it twice. He also passed on Adam Gase as well...

So much talent we passed on for some huge busts.

It's the little things that don't have to do with Joe that has killed us in the past also. The Bills and the Titans made the playoffs and they don't or didn't have much of a QB themselves. By that metric we don't need a QB. Titans and Bills make the post-season because when it matters most, they...